Bazzaz Update on 2002-2012 VFR 800

It is the cost...........I assume http://vfrworld.com/forums/7th-generation-2010-present/40649-bazzaz-z-bomb.html

 

It has nothing to do with cost.

I have known about Bazzaz for quite a long time and I've heard a lot about how good the products are. Ammar Bazzaz is the guy who did all of the EFI trickery for Mat Mladin, so I know he knows what he is doing.

 

Scuba they don't even make a Zbomb for the 800s

 

last i checked, they're pretty much the same product, same options and tuning right? they both have the same tables, with the same fuel cells, with the same percentages and rpms right? neither of them offer ignition tuning, i dont see the big deal. i am going to look into rapid bike for these reasons. maybe Bazzaz's quality is better or they're easier to tune though...

 

I'm sure Bazzaz could give you quite a few reasons why their product is different to a Power Commander. Make your own choice.

 

The tittle of this thread said it is for the vfr 800. This thread were created from Bazzaz
I check their website but found not thing

 

The title of this thread says nothing at all about a Z-Bomb for the VFR800. This is about the Z-Fi.

 

Got it Thanks for correction
Let me research some more

 

OK, I am going through the process of installing my Z-Fi. The pictures that came with it are small and not very clear, so I am having trouble determining the location of my Throttle Position Sensor. Can someone help me, please?

 

Never mind, I found it.




But what's got me really screwed is this: according to the instructions from Bazzaz, I need to

"Route the last portion of the Bazzaz harness down the left side of the motorcycle, behind the frame
and towards the bottom of the motor. Locate the black factory SPEED sensor connectors inside the plastic
shroud. Disconnect the factory speed connectors and plug them in-line with the Bazzaz speed connectors."



Now, my problem is this: I am looking at their pic/description and comparing it with what I see on my bike...and they don't match up. Furthermore, the only thing that I can think must be the speed sensor has completely different plugs to those on the Bazzaz unit. WTH?

The plug circled in red is what I'm pretty sure is the speed sensor,circled in blue are the plugs from the Bazzaz unit.



As you can see, if I have correctly identified the speed sensor plug, there's no way in hell it matches the Bazzaz plugs...but there are no other plugs in that area that would match the Bazzaz plugs anyway!





Tink, I know you know these bikes inside out: am I missing something really obvious here? - I did some searching and it seems that the location and type of speed sensor plugs changed between the 5th and 6th gen models. Is it possible that Bazzaz has accidentally put the 5th gen plugs on the 6th gen unit?

 

Ahhh, that's interesting. I think you might be onto something with that!

I'm still waiting to hear back from the tech support guys at Bazzaz but I reckon you've probably identified the issue, Tink. Thanks!

 

OK, I have had a response from Bazzaz:

"I have not encountered this problem with the VFR800 yet. I knew that they had made some slight changes to the bike throughout the years it was made. But nothing indicated that the speed sensor would have changed. Is it possible that it is a difference between the US and Aus model?

Anyways, you have a couple options. You can cut the connector off of the Bazzaz harness and splice our pink wire into the pink wire on the bike, you’ll have no need for the black wires on our harness at that point as they’re just loops. Or you could send us the harness back and we can put the right connector on, as we do have that connector. A third option I suppose, would be for us to send you the connector and terminals, and you could put the connector on our harness yourself, if you are confident in your abilities.

Please let us know how we can further assist you in this issue.

Regards,"

My response:

"Thanks for getting back to me so quickly.

I have done some searching and posted this problem up on VFRWorld, and one of the guys there had a look on eBay and found that the speed sensor plugs for the US-spec bikes do seem to be the same as the Bazzaz plugs (of course) but the plugs for Euro/Aus model bikes are different. He postulated, probably correctly, that the difference has something to do with US speedometers measuring miles per hour, while everyone else uses kilometres per hour. I suspect Bazzaz will need to account for this difference on future harnesses, especially since I know you guys are making a push to expand your sales outside the US.

Shipping to the US is now prohibitively expensive, so it really makes no sense to send the harness back. If you could possibly send me the terminals and connectors I can rewire it myself.

Once again, thanks for your quick response.

Regards,"

Soooo.....Tink, I reckon you correctly identified the problem and I think Bazzaz simply didn't check to see if there were variations outside the US. - If the latter is the case, I'm pleased that VFRWorld could assist them in rectifying this issue before a bunch of non-US customers start sending angry emails!

Thank you, Tink!

 

Great job Tink, good luck with the installation Rainbow :thumbsup:

 

Yeah, I see where you're coming from but the Bazzaz guys are assuring me it'll work. IDK.

The harness is installed and I just spliced the wires together. I have started it up and it definitely works but I can't do an on-road test until I get my forks back from the suspension dude. - I did put it into first and let the back wheel spin and the speedo is definitely working...but I'm not sure if it's reading accurately now. I'll check that against my GPS, next week.

 

I don't know. I don't think it is acting as a speedo healer (why would it?) so I guess it must be using it for FI mapping. Ahhh, FIIK!