Headers for 5th gen - Motad England

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  1. mello dude

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    Admitedly I am continuing from a VTEC thread on this - but I am interested on this for a 5th gen bike. Those Motad headers are sweet looking.

    - Will that Motad header/collector add any juice vs the stock 98-99 headers?
    Are the pipe diameters larger? 5 -7 ponies would be worth it. :biggrin:

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    And, would they do any sort of group discount for us?
     


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    -I have emailed Motad direct for an inquiry.

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    I got a reply from Antari, the US distributer, the system is $699.95, plus $25 shipping (at least to my location).
     


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    Just asked about a group discount for anyone on the board. How many do we have interested? Can someone post this to the other VFR boards?
     


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    That's a very fair price - if the downtubes are larger than stock, I'll probably jump at it.
     


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    Motad..

    The headers are not any larger than standard, and we have had some members who have had a problem with the motad system not fitting together well. Also, the collector box is not as well made as the original, meaning that the pipes are somewhat easier to ground out on the right side. probably ok for you straight line charlies over there:bolt:


    Have a look here : http://www.hondavfrclub.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12699&highlight=Motad+Pipes

    The quality control may have improved since this thread was posted ..

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    Rats - sounds like i'll stick with the stock '98s,

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    What are the other choices out there?

    and it does look like things were rectified by the end of that post, which is several years old, so....

    But wasn't there just someone from this board that fitted them recently? What say you about the quality and fit?
     


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    Again they responded within minutes, which I take as a good sign in terms of attention to customer service. I just haven't had time to post.

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    Problem is that the British Pound vs. US Dollar is killing everything, and the $699 price is VERY discounted already as we are not using our dealer network to sell these, but instead are going consumer direct.

    If you were to put together an order for 3 or more we would be willing to drop the price to $650 each, but honestly that is about it...

    Hope this helps, as you have seen from the write ups this is a very nice product, very well done and every customer we have sold has been more then impressed. And that is tough to do with consumers nowadays!!!

    Let us know if we can assist you with any other questions, happy to do so.

    Motad North America
    Annitori Distributing
    www.Annitori.com
    1-888-963-1212
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    Is the Motad system stainless steel?

    I went on their web site, and it really isn't clear.

    For that $650.00 price, if the Motad is not stainless, the OEM Honda system would seem a better deal. IIRC, the one I priced out on the web came in at around $540.00................I have it written down at home and I'll check when I get back tomorrow.


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    The Motad Exhaust is all stainless...

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    Thanx for the clarification, Steve!

    Also, I remembered incorrectly, the price I came up with for the OEM system is $597.10 + shipping. This is from: www.mrcycles.com


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    i just put a set of Motad pipes on my 02 VFR and am very satisfied with the end results. The exchaust lined up with all ports without a problem. as for touching ground… I have recently picked up a 1000RR so honestly do not ride the VFR as hard as I use to. Will try to post ground clearance over the next few days.
    No the welds are not pretty, but then many parts out of Europe do not have the greatest weld jobs. I have a friend with an RC51 who has purchased a lot of parts and his first comment when he saw the pipes was “yeah, good ol european tig weld”.
    If anyone does get these pipes, let’s see what we can do for a custom PC III map.
    One last thing… don’t forget to heat up the center stand bolts!
    Check, ledroc.com if you want to see what I went through during the installation process.
     


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    As the importer / distributor, we have had a few email exchanges with Motad UK to get direct answers to your questions. Here are some of their comments:

    Regarding fit:

    "We have sold 100's of these recently and I think we were the victim of the few fit issues being well publicised. We have not had fit problems for 2 years. 2 years ago we made a batch incorrectly, never any fun to screw up but we resolved all problems

    Regarding clearance issues:

    "4 years ago we changed the design slightly to tuck the system in where 2 up riding was causing grounding problems. As you know clearances are very tight. Every production items is refitted to the jig after production, so we have had very few issues.

    Regarding Welds:

    We wanted to manufacture in stainless, and we all know where the price of this material has gone in the past few years. MIG welds are fine and do the job very competently, but do have the drawback of not being very "pretty".

    Then again, there is no part of this exhaust which is in view once installed on the machine, so outside of the parts counter "pretty" welds mean nothing to the quality, design or function of the pipe.

    So the choice was between a higher price with pretty welds you cannot see, or stay competitive and believe customers want a good price and a product that works, albeit with MIG welds."


    Hope this information helps resolve some of the questions above, let us know if we can assist you in any way.

    Steve Larson
     


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    Steve,
    Thanks for your feedback on Motad headers. But compared to the OEM 98-99 parts they really dont offer any advantages. Now if someone would come out with a large diameter tuned set for our viffers - you wouldnt believe the pent up demand for these. We havent had anything really available since Erion and Two brothers racing stopped make these.

    I'm in for a set if they ever become reality. BTW I'll pay for good quality too.

    PM to me if you want to exchange emails on this.

    Thanks!

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  17. rode2rouen

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    Good job on the photos, David. The Motad looks to be a good quality system.....they even have a strut for a centerstand bumper. Like Steve mentioned, TIG welding is much more expensive (read: time consuming) method of joining the tubes and in an application such as the VFR, MIG gets the job done and keeps the cost in a realistic area.

    At this point I find myself knee deep in the parts gathering mode to get rid of the linked brakes on my '02.....the "no cat" exhaust is gonna have to wait until that's done.

    Steve, I've got your site bookmarked....you'll likely be hearing from me after the riding season is over.


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    So does anyone else want to get together and get these? So we can get the slightly cheaper price? I don't really want to wait around to pick up a pair of 98 or '99 ones off EBay, plus these would be brand new, so no worries about dents or anything, and Stainless, so no worries about rust, no matter how long you keep your bike.
     


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    thanks, what ever you end up with be sure to heat the center stand bolts when removing them. i busted one off, forgetting about the lock-tight that coats the bolts.
     


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    Really, no one else??
     


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