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Battery Drains whiile sitting

Discussion in '1st & 2nd Generation 1983-1989' started by midias, Aug 6, 2012.

  1. midias

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    My 1986 VFR750F has had an issue for a little while, the battery drains while it is turned off.

    I looked into the factory manual and tried the linkage test

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    I failed the test and had about 10V on the meter.

    So I started the bike and checked the charging voltage. It was 12.2V at 5kRPM

    I shut the bike down and unplugged the 4 pin connector on the RR.

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    After unplugging this connector I rechecked leakage and it passed the test at 0V

    I am guessing I need a new RR can anyone else confirm?
     


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    How long a period of time of sitting are we talking about here? It sounds like something on the 12V rail is making a connection to ground to drain the battery. I would test at certain points on the wiring harness at the fuse box to see if you get voltage while the ignition is turned off.

    How old of a battery is this?
     


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    Battery is 1.5 years old and it is an agm. It has done this with two batteries. It was slow and as long as I rode every month I was fine now it is dead in a couple days.

    I agree the 12 volt rail is the issue that is why I did the test in the manual and started pulling connectors until the short went away.
     


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    Reverse current leakage points to a failed diode in the r/r, so look for a replacement unit.

    You got bit, he got bit, she got bit, they got bit, we will all have been bitten by the r/r !:chaingun:
     


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    Do you have a multimeter to test at different points in the harness and fusebox for voltage? That is what I would do first with the ignition off.
    Seeing voltage at a certain point in the circuit where you should not in the electrical schematic with the ignition off is where I would start.
    Begin at the battery itself and work your way down the chain.
     


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    Yeah, failed dioide in the bridge would not allow the battery to recharge when running, battery would just drain but how would this account for drain while it was sitting?
     


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    Yes I have a multi meter. I used it when I tested for a batter charge leak as suggested in the honda manual.
     


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    Should work.
     


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    Huh also my battery drains like hell, but i use my bike almost everyday. I have the same problem as midias. When i start the engine the power on my battery was 11.97V, so i tryed it at 5kRPM and than it was 12.2 V. I hope its RR and not the stator (generator), beucase i bought a new one 2 months ago.

    I will report the solution when i will find it.
     


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    R/R failure season :hss: glad I got the 6th gen.
     


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    Oh i forgot to wrote that mine is 6th gen :)
     


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    Run the R/R test with a diode checker and ohmeter and make sure you do not have a cell or two that went bad.
     


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    Just thought I would let you guys know. I had a bad RR and a bad battery. I don't know if one caused the other. The battery lost charge sitting on the ground and even with a fresh battery the RR would not go over 12.3V. New battery and regulator 14.3V at 5k rpm and the battery does not drain.
     


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    A bad R/R can cause a battery to go bad if the regulator lets the voltage run too high.
     


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    setting the battery directly on the ground is bad too not sure why just what I was taught many many years ago... glad you figured it out.... there is a cross over from a cbr RR that fits right up to the vfr..I have one but TOECUTER got it for me and it costs 1/3 what the vfr one costs...plus as TOE put it..."they grow on trees"
     


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    Do tell about this Crusty, do you have a Honda number or CBR model year we can pluck these R/R's from?

    I think the problem with batteries on the ground is if you place them on concrete or asphalt- if you place them on something like a wooden board or a rubber sheet- that should help with ion leakage.
    Placing them on battery tenders helps with storage too.
     


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