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  1. JAVIERM

    JAVIERM New Member

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    Yes gear does work. I had my A* leather jacket, kevlar jeans, T Pro Forcefield under armour and my RF1100. As for the doc, I got released from the hospital that night after xrays and a C scan. They said the results where fine, i just needed to follow up with my doc.
     


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    Questions:

    I-15 and I-115 are both Interstates near Menafee, CA and adjacent to LA are both to my recollection are separated with no "double yellows" between any of the lanes or the HOV lane. So where did this happen again? During commute hours which in LA is damn near 24/7 , a car/motocycle incident would have tied up traffic for a substantial amount of time. The CHP is very effiecient and with the number of cell phones being used by cagers in general,

    the chance of this not being reported is slim to none.

    If this bike dude took off after this alleged occurance the insurance dudes are gonna have a field day if it happened at all. It will be fun to see if this dude lawyers up what the lawyer has to say except, " Don't let the doorknob hit you in the ass on the way out."

    The friendly witness may be an insurance dude or a shifty lawyer too. Maybe even the same dude that gets Chicky off.. (pun intended)

    I am thinking this may be one of those Nigerian motorcycle wreck scams that were popular on harleydood BBs.


    No mention about lane splitting wet or dry..LOL . A look at various freeway construction regs will show that the newer parts of CA freeways are wider than average. Not all, but anybody with any sense and experience will know that. Many are years old and were built before cars and motorcycles were even invented back when LA was a Presidio and there was no "HOLLYWEED" sign.
     
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    That's what I like about this, you always get different points of view on a situation. As for your "Questions", I was not trying to go into detail and blast my lic#, picture, name, hour, etc. all on the web! Hey but good job investigating.
     


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    Glad you like the different points of view especially those you agree with. I guess you were not so enthusiastic about responding to the questions. Think of it this way, you were looking for empathy and got questions. The same thing is gonna happen if there is any kind of investigation. Since you took off and the woman who "hit you" has a different story to tell, my questions were the easy ones.

    Could be that leaving the scene of an accident could be construed as hit and run.

    Now about that double yellow and those HOV lanes on the freeway?
     


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    Ok, crashing always sucks. Glad you are OK-ish.
     


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    Lawyer up ... +1 getting up from a concussion, you were not even thinking enough to deal with the accident. It's like you were rebooted. If you have the witness's info yer good if not.. Go back to scene and post a sign asking the witness to contact you. It is likely they travel the same route daily. You are lucky, delayed concussions can be dangerous.
    I know, It happened to me in a hockey game. Head first into boards out cold only to ge up and play the rest of the game and drive home. I just don't remember any of it. Shit's bad.

    Glad you are OK now. Keep riding shit happens.
     


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    No way you ever leave an accident scene EVER!!!!!!!!! especially when your the victim . Call Russ Brown And Associates here in LA and they specialize in motorcycle mishaps . Goggle them . Glad you survived
     


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    The information you obtain at this site is not, nor is it intended to be, legal advice.
    You should consult an attorney for individual advice regarding your own situation
     


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    I thought the dudes name was Javier. No wonder his family thinks he should quit riding.
     


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    Hey now, I resent that. I have played an attorney on the interwebz and a doctor in the bedroom.
     


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    A tenner sez this guy Brown is a harleylawyerdude. The disclaimer was copied off his website. The first question to ask the contingency lawyers is, what is your percentage?

    I wonder if these lawyer outfits are fer or agin the proposed ban on cell devices in cages or those inflatable jackets.
     


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    I tell all the ladies I am a divorce attorney. Though it might help me get laid. Thought wrong.

    But I believe BB brought up good points. If you were able to get up and drive away, then this would tend to reduce any injury claim you may have. Certainly I think you should be entitles to reasonable but full replacement costs for damage. But I am not from that area. Our civil law is now where near as broad as yours down there.

    An experience I had with the Insurance Corporation of BC (ICBC) years back where I re-injured a well documented existing injury, in a collision I had while working, I settled with them where they offered up a settlement which was actually 25% more than the figure I had on mind. Through conversations with someone in the know whom will remain nameless on this forum, I was told that ICBC would have denied my claim for more if I was to involve a lawyer and I would have had to fight for everything I was to get. I am totally satisfied that I would have won but I also believe the end result would have been that I would have put a bit less into my pocket and a whole fucking pile into the pockets of the lawyers. But you should never discount the possibility that a lawyer may be the way to go. Tell the insurance company you want to keep the lawyers out of this if you can so long as they meet and discuss things with you in good faith. And don't ask for the world. You will get more, easier.
     


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    you didn't read the link I supplied earlier in this thread about Colt McCoy and the Cleveland Browns playing the 2nd half of the game and not remembering any of it. Folks take head injuries seriously and there have been instances of people dropping over dead hours after receiving what appeared to be a minor and non-life threatening head injury.

    Natasha Richardson, actress, is dead at age 45 - latimes.com
     


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    No. I didn't read the link as you suspect. But hey...I'm over that.

    I am personally aware of a collision where someone climbed out of a rolled car and walked into the bush and died from a broken neck. We never new about him until after the scene had been cleaned up. Buddy drivng the BMW, crying in the hospital bed because of a broken arm while we were administering the Breathalyzer tests in the hospital, told us he had two passengers not one. Oooops. And I am also aware, second hand on this one, where a kid went to the Nanaimo Genreal Hospital after hitting a cable strucg across a private road while riding a dirt bike. He was exrayed and examined by a major hospital and released. He died the next day too from a broken neck issue that went un-diagnosed.

    Yeah so strange things do happen. Shit. I had a doctor diagnose a foot injury as a sprain and I walked around doing light duties for a week. My own doctor called me at home and told me to come in for a cast cause I had a broken foot. So even doctors make mistakes too.
     


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    And just because that happened in Canada does not mean it is my fault. Actually that happened in Quebec. They are captive Canadians who are trying to escape.
     


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    this time of year, I'd be trying to escape any part of Canada
     


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    Escape from Canada is difficult with that 60 kph speed limiit they have. Thank God some Americans went up there and taught them how to build freeways.
     


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    Here's an idea for all the Americas, North, South, Central and otherwise. All lawyers, insurance agents and bike salesmen should be hooked up to polygraphs when conducting any business.
     


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    Returning to the original post.

    Its not clear what riding experience you have but certainly one thing I learnt in 30 years commuting into Central London was that its not a question of if you will have an accident, but really when and how serious it will be. I guess the same is true for most cities on the planet.

    So Javier back to basics - please consider four things:

    (1) the most important thing you should do is to get a thorough medical check-up - NOW.

    If they conclude your good to go, then fine, but as you have no idea what happened there remains a small risk that things may be about to go bad big time. If you never read about the death of Natasha Richardson - then Google it. She suffered what seemed a minor skiing fall, refused medical attention - and ultimately died just because she did not want to make a fuss. Sounds familiar. So off to the quack now!

    (2) Adrenaline rush can do strange things, so next time remember you should never leave the scene of an accident until the police have attended and taken witness statements. In Europe it’s an offence not to report any accident to the police ASAP if anyone sustains any injuries (even if you are the injured person).

    I am not sure if the same thing applies in your case, but assuming it does, then its time to formally contact the police and tell them what you can - what you said in your first post is probably all they need, plus names/contact details of the witnesses and the other driver. Because you were disoriented by what happened they will have no reason to question the delay in making a report. Just make clear to them that you contacted as soon as you could.

    (3) Make an honest assessment of any damage to you, your gear and your bike. The medical report will help as will photos of any cuts and bruises. If the bike has had a recent garage service, then see if the same technician can assess the bike and prepare a repair quote to cover all the damage sustained since the bike was serviced by them - again take photos. Also get them to check the state of all you gear - if you hit the central divider and were concussed, then the chances are your helmet and all your biking gear needs replacement - even if it looks OK always bin a helmet if its had any sort of impact - again take photos!

    Then report what happened to your insurers - and STOP posting anything on this site until this whole incident is resolved. I have said it before - in Europe there are several "claims management agencies" that employ researchers who may well be trawling forums to see if they can dig up stuff which might help then deny responsibility for a claim. I guess the same thing happens over there. Hence saying "I have no idea what happened" is not really helping your case. If it was me I would ask a Forum Mod to make this thread go away until you let them know it has all been resolved satisfactorily.

    (4) Now to convince your folks - Even when it's not your fault - they are naturally going to be worried. So you may want to say you will only get back on the bike once you have done some sort of rider improvement training.

    I have no idea what is available your side of the Pond, but I bet there are plenty of courses which may help. They will probably focus on practical things which you can do reduce the risk of another accident. Stuff like defensive positioning - so you learn not to hang about in someone's blind spot, always riding with headlights on or wearing a HiVis jacket require no effort, but could save your life. Seeking extra training will however show your family that you are aware of their concerns and hopefully provide the reassurance they need.

    Good luck.



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    So the link I provided on Natasha wasn't sufficient?
     


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