Starting Honda cafe bike build today

Discussion in 'Mechanics Garage' started by donald branscom, Jul 7, 2011.

  1. donald branscom

    donald branscom New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2009
    Messages:
    1,934
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Guerneville CA
    Map
    The spray can I am refering to did not "spray" it had a stream that was focused and was a foamy gel.
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  2. donald branscom

    donald branscom New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2009
    Messages:
    1,934
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Guerneville CA
    Map
    Thanks foothillrider! I think in the future very few bikes will get restored.
    The aluminum frames can get damaged easily and turn to white powder.
    The plastic parts in good condition and not ruined by sitting out in the sun will be rare.
    And the electronics will be all corroded.

    The restorer will have to be skilled in metal repair (TIG welding of aluminum).
    The restorer will also have to know all about plastic and electronics too.

    Matter of fact if you have a new sportbike. Do not ride it much, just keep it locked up for 50 years and that WILL BE your retirement check.
    All the modern bikes will be electric and look like a kitchen appliance or transformer toy. But they will be more dangerous because car drivers will not hear you coming, and of coarse they will always say they did not see you.
    [​IMG]
    All plastic and electric.
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  3. FoothillRyder

    FoothillRyder New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2011
    Messages:
    657
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Sierra Foothills
    I agree with all that. My 'new' sportbike is the '86 VFR I just got. My two newer bikes are both Triumphs, and other than the igniter neither of them have any electronics, and both are carbureted. My other two are both older, made of steel, and have no electronics.

    I was in high-tech for nearly thirty years, and saw the trends in everything. I'm not going to claim brilliance or foresight; but I'm glad I possess that most precious of character traits - dumb luck. :cool:

    I may decide to do cafe restorations on both the '73 Bonnie and the '64 R50. They would both be cool with low bars and solo saddles...
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  4. Badbilly

    Badbilly Official VFRWorld Troll Of The Year!

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2007
    Messages:
    15,040
    Likes Received:
    52
    Trophy Points:
    48

    The specific differences in the Jasco products is found in the MSDS documentation. The aerosol does not contain Stoddard solvent. Pressurization is via CO2. The foaming is transient and may be effected by the design of the valve orifice or by an unlisted non-toxic or nonreactive thixotropic agent only known by the little elves in the forest who make this shit.
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  5. donald branscom

    donald branscom New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2009
    Messages:
    1,934
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Guerneville CA
    Map
    I knew that. (not) Thanks BadBilly.
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  6. Badbilly

    Badbilly Official VFRWorld Troll Of The Year!

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2007
    Messages:
    15,040
    Likes Received:
    52
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Jasco is good. Dupont makes some for aircraft that is really some badass stuff. However, the best stripper I know of is Miss Kitty Litter who performs nightly at Seattle's T&A Emporium.
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  7. donald branscom

    donald branscom New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2009
    Messages:
    1,934
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Guerneville CA
    Map
    Preparing my workspace to put the motorcycle back together.
    These are pics of all the parts I cleaned,inspected,rebuilt and painted.
    The wiring and carbs are ready also.
    I have got to look through the junk box and see what is left to clean.
    [​IMG]
    Oh, and the front forks, kick starter and kickstand.
    [​IMG]
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  8. reg71

    reg71 Poser Staff Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2006
    Messages:
    9,765
    Likes Received:
    276
    Trophy Points:
    128
    Location:
    Sikeston, MO
    Map
    You know what I appreciate about your builds, Donald. It's that you take the time and try and reuse as much of the original parts as you can rather than doing what most people (including myself) would do and just order new pieces and stick them on. It's that little extra touch that makes it so interesting for me and I enjoy the pictorial documentation for posterity.
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  9. donald branscom

    donald branscom New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2009
    Messages:
    1,934
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Guerneville CA
    Map
    Thanks for the comments Reg71.

    I do try to use the original parts but if the part really needs replacement I will do it.
    I have bought many new parts.

    New electronic ignition. (RICKS)
    New wiring harnesses.
    New ignition switch.
    New rubber cush drive rubbers for the rear hub.
    New rear brake shoes.
    New front brake pads.
    New bleed valve for front disk caliper.
    New rectifier/regulator combo.
    New fork seals.
    New AVON tires. (Quite an investigation of sizes etc.,.)
    Used aluminum rims/wheels.
    New tubes.
    New expensive Four into 2 into 1 exhaust with muffler.
    New pod air filters and jets.
    New tapered roller bearings for steering head.
    New chrome kickstand.
    New expensive seat.
    Used gas tank.
    New powder coating on frame and gas tank.
    New alternator case.
    Used left side case polished.
    Used cam chain tensioner polished.
    New clutch plates.
    New clutch springs.
    New gasket oil pan.
    New screws for valve cover.
    New clutch tool.

    Still more to go.
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  10. donald branscom

    donald branscom New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2009
    Messages:
    1,934
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Guerneville CA
    Map
    Today I was cleaning and straightening one of the stock foot pegs on the CB750 Honda. One was straight and one was crooked.
    [​IMG]
    This simple steel foot peg has lasted 33 years!
    It is a beautiful thing and a thing of beauty.

    This one is REPAIRABLE!! It is steel.
    [​IMG]
    It does not weigh much at all.
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  11. ridervfr

    ridervfr Member

    Country:
    Belgium
    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2009
    Messages:
    4,048
    Likes Received:
    144
    Trophy Points:
    78
    Location:
    South FL
    Map
    Dah fine days of steel components. Like the gear shift and brake lever on my gen 3 bike. I low sided it once (in an area where you would need Mr. Glock), well thank goodness it was a steel lever, I was able to bend it back out and off I rode.

    You build looks AWSOME!! side note on the footpeg thing. I was racing a twin in CCS a while back and had after-market rear-sets on it, important because you needed ground clearance. I remember another wrench saying, "boy they sure are light, but then again if you wana save weight before the race, just take a shit". I had several crashes on that bike and that aluminum just got shaved down to shite. Now everything is fancy metals that break off literally.
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  12. donald branscom

    donald branscom New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2009
    Messages:
    1,934
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Guerneville CA
    Map
    These new modern sport bikes are like owning a pet. You have to have insurance because you will never be able to afford the repairs.

    Just fall down one time and it is going to cost hundreds.

    Those factories like selling you a bike with a fairing with lights and mirrors and radiators attached close to it. "bodies" they call them now. Plus they can post ads all over it, just like spandex bicycle clothing.

    Why can't kids just get simple reliable easy to fix motorcycles anymore??
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  13. reg71

    reg71 Poser Staff Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2006
    Messages:
    9,765
    Likes Received:
    276
    Trophy Points:
    128
    Location:
    Sikeston, MO
    Map
    well, it's simple to you because of all your experience. I can work on a little bit of stuff, but I try not to tear down engines if I can help it. I think bikes and cars are much more reliable now, but the downside is of course they are harder to work on. Now if you develop a modern, reliable, easy to work on bike, then you'll be on to something. Don't expect Honda to make it, though. It would make too much sense!
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  14. ridervfr

    ridervfr Member

    Country:
    Belgium
    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2009
    Messages:
    4,048
    Likes Received:
    144
    Trophy Points:
    78
    Location:
    South FL
    Map
    My VFR body work has saved the bike a few times back when it was a Frankenstine MAtCHiNe. Now, I would have to have miniumum of two Gin Martinis if such an incident happened.

    Todays stuff is throw away basically. They make it to break so you buy an entire new part. They dont want you to be able to take apart a switch and actually clean/repair it.

    All that new fangle electronic wizardtry is great until it stops functioning, then you gota take your bike thats blinking lights or your car thats flashing check engine to the dealer/stealer. Then hang on to your wallet (I gots ta chain on mine:smile:) Even then you may not get satisfaction. The old light bulb should have gone off when you looked at the repair manual and the FI/Electronic Chapter was 100 pages long compared to the 15 to 20 pages of other chapters. Its the space frontier now.
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  15. donald branscom

    donald branscom New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2009
    Messages:
    1,934
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Guerneville CA
    Map
    I think you are right. Honda really needs to get motorcycle people back into the design dept. in the motorcycle plant.
    Get away from the transformer toys and lap tops. Just use the lap top to design the components.

    They have all the tools to make a beautiful modern motorcycle.
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  16. donald branscom

    donald branscom New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2009
    Messages:
    1,934
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Guerneville CA
    Map
    My wife's Toyota Corolla 2006 really scares me. Varible valve timing.
    A blinking light comes on every time the oil needs changing.

    Now my schedule of oil changes does not match the computer schedule.
    I am always ahead or behind the computer schedule.

    My wife comes home and says, The blinking check engine light is on! PANIC****
    I go into panic mode thinking it needs some expensive propietary repair!!!damn
    Time to get out my expensive OBD II diagnostic tool???? NO
    Turns out to be the oil change time.
    They need a separate light for oil changing.
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  17. Badbilly

    Badbilly Official VFRWorld Troll Of The Year!

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2007
    Messages:
    15,040
    Likes Received:
    52
    Trophy Points:
    48
    What you pikers and Luddites need is a good set of titanium rearsets, pegs and farkle brackets. A whole shitload of carbon fibre stuff too. Ounces can make a difference.

    If none of this is feasable or affordable, I am liking that suggestion about taking a dump even before cruising WalMart.
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  18. donald branscom

    donald branscom New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2009
    Messages:
    1,934
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Guerneville CA
    Map

    What is carbon fibre? LOL I was trying to reduce my carbon footprint. LOL
    But this website is constructed entirely of carbon. There goes my carbon diet.
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  19. Badbilly

    Badbilly Official VFRWorld Troll Of The Year!

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2007
    Messages:
    15,040
    Likes Received:
    52
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Weary as I am of all this shamefull plugging of goods and services here, the name of the organic carbon fibre stuff I use is "MegaMucil" Hands down better than Kellog's All Bran, 24/7. I really like the Espresso Crema flavor best. The rest are good but that one is my fave..
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  20. donald branscom

    donald branscom New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2009
    Messages:
    1,934
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Guerneville CA
    Map
    Continuing on.... AH hemmm

    Here is a finished foot peg ready for another 30 years of service?
    [​IMG]
    Carb silver, with black pin and foot rubber. Mmmm Mmmmm
    [​IMG]
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
Related Topics

Share This Page