Anyone else talking RACING?! <--- of the motorcycle type

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  1. Echo3Niner

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    Dooh! Reckon next time he'll attend the meeting, or at least get someone's notes or something... Or knowing his attitude, he wont, and he'll just complain about it some more...

    Even given the "he didn't follow proper procedure to reenter the track", given the situation (6 second lead), it's not like he put anyone in jeopardy or anything; Hell, he coulda come to a complete stop and still kept the lead, I still think the punishment was severe. There is no way to fix that, no way to address it in the race; they should always setup a time doc system, where they doc a rider time to determine his place, if they see an infraction; for jump starts, you name it. This way, we just get on with the race, and then after their penalty, we see where they finish...
     


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    Echo3Niner.. Your idea is better than mine.
     


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    Interesting read in Sport Rider Magazine with Jeremy Burgess talking about Rossi and Ducati's current progress.

    In part it seems to be suggesting Casey was able to ride the Ducatis flaws to a level nobody else could but was also guilty by failing to communicate clearly ways to improve it with the engineers. While Rossi will work hard with him to make the Ducati the bike he wants to ride like they did with the Yamaha M1.



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    " Jeremy Burgess has been around long enough to know better than to expect miracles.

    The most prolific crew chief in modern grand prix history never bought into the belief that Valentino Rossi would jump on the flawed Ducati Desmosedici GP11 and immediately reach for the champagne bottle. It doesn’t work that way, though some believe Rossi can do anything, and often he can. The belief that he could switch brands and start winning was created when he rode the even more flawed YZR-M1 to a thrilling victory over Max Biaggi in his Yamaha debut at Welkom, South Africa, in 2004. But that was a different time and under different circumstances, and the start of this season presented a number of impediments.

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    “I don’t exactly know what has been farmed out to the other guys, but we’ve been working on a lot of anti-spin and a lot of things,” Burgess said. “It’s pretty much a lot of the pumping that Casey (Stoner) complained about was caused by the way the electronics didn’t work smoothly in the braking, either keeping the wheel spinning or breaking the spin down more slowly. So you ended up with everything sort of out of sync and the bike leaping up and down. So these are things that Valentino was able to identify through his experience pretty early.

    “And it’s not anything against Casey, because he didn’t really have anything to compare it with. So where they were chasing the suspension and everything else, you can argue that a couple of guys here could’ve been a bit smarter about it all too. When you get an engineering group who work and trust and believe in the rider, which is something the rider has to create in the first instance, then you move forward very quickly. And Mick Doohan was able to do with it Honda. Freddie, Wayne Rainey. All the good guys have been able to work very closely with the engineering group, and what the rider says versus what they deliver takes you forward very quickly.” "


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    Jeremy Burgess talks about Rossi and Ducati progress - Sport Rider Magazine - Mobile
     


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    WSS - Man! Chaz is d'Man! Triumph, what were you thinking???
     


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    Performance wise, the Triumph just wasn't up to the task of winning races or championships...it still isn't and it probably never will be. Chaz made the bikes look a lot better than they were last year. Lack of historical experience and knowledge is a problem with these machines. It's an odd engine configuration that requires learning everything from scratch. The Yamaha that Chaz is on is a few years old now and it has been very successful at having the performance needed for the winning races, just ask Cal Crutchlow and Luca Scassa. The clear muscle in the field are the Yamaha's and Honda's.


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    Burgess and Rossi are both tossers, they need to stfu and get on with racing instead of talking bullshit about Casey. Stoner is clearly inside both of their heads. STFU and get on with it.

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    Congrats to Eugene Laverty for pulling the double. Always been one of my favorites.

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    As knocked out as those umbrella girls and other chicas who hang out with the fast guys are, it's hard to really believe that any of the fast guys are tossers. Then again if one is glued to the TV for the races and associated festivites who knows who is tossing and who ain't.

    This is in no way meant to be sexist. If the fast guys turn someone on, so be it. Wank on!
     


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    No doubt about it. The BE-1 team was making headway, and the 675R would have provided better suspension and brakes; but, alas it was not meant to be. Triumph screwed the pooch. BE-1, and their riders both stated how disappointed they were, they really thought they were getting somewhere and were looking forward to the R.

    But, when you don't have true race development, you don't have a factory team, you don't build real race parts, and you rely on 3rd party's to develop your bike, it's gonna be slower anyway.

    So, there is no doubt the bike needs development, it is unfortunate that Triumph doesn't back that.
     


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    It really is too bad, the world economy certainly didn't help. The series would certainly benefit from having more participation from manufacturers other than the big 3....I know it's really the big 4, but Suzuki has zero factory or privateer support presence in WSS.

    They have chosen to go their own way with the triple, that unfortunately will be the death blow. Not really sure if I agree with the better suspension and brakes either.
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    The "historical" acumen borders on the hysterical. History ain't all about what was in the latest issue of what's on the newstand at WalMart.
     


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    Whoa....Tossers? Baglady? hahhahaahha

    Someone is looking for a reaction methinks.

    I keep reading that Rossi is crashing and burning, people acting like he's back there behind Tony Elias somewhere. Truth is he is not, he's getting nearer the front every race, and if it were the good ole days with unlimited testing time and money who knows where they might be in development.

    Do I think Rossi's best days are behind him? Im not exactly ready to write him off and send him to WSBK yet, and apparently in spite of some people's opinion Ducati hasnt been ready to do that to Nicky either heheheheee.

    It was very good to see Chaz get two wins in a row! Interesting that in the post race interview he mentioned that he hasnt been trying any harder lately than he has for the last ten years to get a win.

    I enjoy watching races held on the Monza track. I like how you can blow the corner and come back on to the track, sure beats the alternative.

    Watching Biaggi race is for the most part constant tension between how well the Ape appears to work for him versus when is he going to find ways to blow it completely. I can think of worse ways to spend my time than 2 hrs WSBK, like maybe hanging out at Walmart, but if youre there to get something its always fun to people watch, even if they are over by the newstands checking out cycle mags boning up so they can get on message boards and wet blanket every discussion.
     
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    Who needs Walmart when you have this right here.

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    Walmart has the best deal on oil for anyone who has common sense. To find out the real skinny on Chaz, y'all will have to wait until he appears on Oprah. I read that his GF said in an interview that " it was hard" she may have mispoke. At least we know he isn't a tosser yet.
     


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    I bet Early Cuyler could ride the sheeit out of a sportbiiiike, even one that werent Murican. You know he's little and doesnt weigh much, them long ass arms could have him hanging waaaaay off, hell son, he could drag his SKULL, no need for helmetfication on the headly area, and if anyone dives inside he just blows they ass away with his sawed-off.

    Yup its time for me to email the writers at Squidbillies with a storyline idea. WOOOOHOOOOOO HELL YEAH!!!!!!!
     


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    Now I relly gota git me wun a them hatz. So does any of them nice folks got theyselves a cephalopodcast?
     


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    Watch Squidbillies Episodes and Clips for Free from Adult Swim

    best damn show on that thar teleevision ipodification downloader hoopty smartyphone type thang.

    Truck boat truck RULES.....WOOOHOOOOOO

    I rests....my case.

    Hell son, its almost....almost as good as being ate up with watching racing. I wanna go to the slutdungeon!!!


    Once again, I digress my brothers, and I am sorry. So let us now talk AMA, since it seems they race the Daytona and then go into hiding for a while. Since I am now a transplanted Kentuckian, I will of course be rooting for Tommy. You clowns can say what you will, but when Earl Haydens kids quit racing youre all going to be sad. Admit it, go ahead, I wont hold it against you later. The big threat may be Blake Young coming on, and I still havent quite figured out why Cardenas is still campaigning here.

    Your thoughts gents?

    I find it fascinating that the team of folks that are making a living off Michael Jordan still find it relevant that the man and the name keeps appearing in American roadracing. Not only do they keep appearing but they are a vital real force in the paddock and on the track. I think it must have something to do with more than money. MJ must really have a love for bikes. Thank goodness. If I ever by some crazy circumstance happen to meet the guy the first thing Id say is, hey, thanks for putting some effort into American motorcycle roadracing. He'd probably say, Huh? hahahahhahaaaa




    PROGRAMMING NOTE: The AMA Pro Road Racing event from Infineon Raceway in Sonoma, CA will air on SPEED on Saturday, May 14 at 10:00pm ET and midnight ET the evening of Sunday, May 15
     
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    OK, I'm game. With all the turmoil in AMA/DMG, there schedule is a mess.

    Yep, I like 'em too; though I wish Tommy had a little more "fire in his belly" and that Roger wasn't crazy...

    Um, there's that Yamaha rider who keeps winning too... (Josh Hayes)

    I've said for two years all the talent was in the 600's. I think Cardenas, Herrin, Aquino, and Eslick should all have graduated to either Superbikes or Europe; but, you gotta get the geezers outta AMA Superbike first...

    Then, let's not even talk about Bobby Fong, who won a couple races last year, was always in the top 5'ish, and doesn't even have a ride in the states this year...

    You got 'em.

    Yeah, I think he'd know what you're talking about. He actually makes several of the races himself.

    Yeah, great timeslot... But, at least it's on...
     


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    IMO, its about time the AMA got out of racing altogether. Most of the racers are gay anyway. Next thing ya know them fruitydoods will be wanting to do that roundyround shit and stuff in dirt. Ewww.
     


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