Most trackable vfr

Title basically says it all. In your opinion what year/model is the best for the track and why do you think it is.

 

I have only ridden the gen 3, 5 & 6. I'd vote for the 5th gen. Only reason I'd go for it over the 6 is no VTEC to wait on. I'd still think better than stock suspention would be a big plus on the track.

 

I would prob say as a full on track bike with no pretentions for the road, a gen 2 due to the simplicity and light weight. if you strip it to go all track would imagine it would offer the highest power to weight to cost ratio of the vfrs. If mixed street and track use is the goal, would look at a gen5 as the ultimate vfr without vtec

 

Gen 2 hands down for the reasons listed above. Way fewer parts to bend back or replace.

 

Best VFR track bike? BZs

Wait.. He sold it. Damn.

 

BZs was the best bike, but not the fastest VFR on the track. Not. Even. Close.

Lolz

 

Seen a whole bunch of bikes that were fast that DNF. So, are the track days monitored at your track or are you guys just buying track time? Out here on the left coast, insurance requires a licensed expert at the head of the pack, an ambulance present , tech inspection etc.

The conclusion that having a fast bike and being able to ride a fast bike is disproven by putting some dude on a brand new Gixxer and trying to play catch up to a race guy on UJM 250 and checking the seat on the Gixxer for asshole puckermarks in the vinyl.

Hence the appelation: Half fast.

 

To answer BB:
Track days are specifically "non-timed" events - many insurance companies define racing as "timed events" and therefore do not cover on track incidents. However "non-timed" events are often considered rider improvement programs (indeed they are) and are covered by many insurance companies. You MUST check with your ins co to determine if you are covered or not. My bike only has liability to to it's age/replacement value and therefore not an issue for me.

Not sure what insurance companies require track day orgs require a "licensed expert" at the front, but in general the folks that function as "control riders" are advanced riders and many (but not all) have racing licenses from one of the larger racing orgs (CCS, WERA, AMA etc).

A sampling of Track Orgs:

EAST COAST
NESBA
Absolute
Sportbike Track Time
Team Pro Motion
and many others

Other places:
Track Day Organizations - Sport Rider Magazine

It really should be on everyone's list, I have yet to meet someone on any bike, anywhere at any skill level that didnt love it.

as proof:
[video=youtube;fSVg3Gg4LmA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSVg3Gg4LmA[/video]

 

I agree on both accounts LOL!

I took the 97 to its limit in 'track-a-bility' without getting radical. Radical meaning swapping parts out that would make it impossible to put back to stock. IMO I made the VFR what it should have been from factory.

As my good friend Jeff, whom betarace knows, said after a ride on the 97: "Man this thing is dialed in".

BZ

 

i still think you should have turboed it like that dude in germany

 

Now you are just being mean!

BZ

 

would you like to see my dyno sheet? I will post it on the 30th of February after my friend bores it out to a 1400cc

 

The model you discribe fits the scenario. Washington State does not require individual motorcycle insurance. Oregon does. There are instances where in Washington State individual insurance is required since racetracks in general and privately owned roadways like the Maryhill Loops road that is rented out to SCCA, a bunch of luge dudes and the organizers of Sportbike Northwest and SoundRider magazine for part of the annual event. As well since it seems, to be name dropping time. Lee Parks was our guest last summer, before that it was Reg Pridmore and before that Nick Ienatch and stalwart Dave Hough. I hope that the vid of Parks isn't some sort of subltle sales pitch to get a
Wing.. No thanks. Try BZ..

BTW, I was speaking of track insurance not personal. I would not be broadcasting entry and participation of either type event to my insurance company. Gotta watch those rates and cancellations ya know.

I agree it should be on a list but not everyone's. There are dudes that some of us who are somewhat discerning who do not want to be within a mile of some of the squirrels who have "fast" bikes. bikes or even flip-flops. Harleys too..

The required racing license defines a certain skill level. I have no idea what "advanced rider" means or who defines same.

Tucked in behind Pridmore on about a 100 mile cruise through the scenic Columbial Gorge area here of the less populated Left Coast. He didn't have any Givi blobs on his VFR but he was packing his wife. I would love to tell you that I am so skilled and fast that I was pushing that 7O year old man to his limits but guess what? That would be BS. Same deal with Ienatch. Forget it..

I'm happy your orgs are big. Ours are relatvely small since we are not packed like sardines in a can out here in the wild, wild West where men are men and sheep are woolly and all bikes are fast, even Harleys.

 

BB, a good friend has received training from Nick Ianetch (sp?) a couple times now and he is one of the fastest guys I know on the track. He is in Advanced group for a reason.

BZ

 

He was so advanced, I lost sight of him. ...and he was on a 250..

These discriptions of skill don't really have a great deal of meaning and are IMO amorphous. Racing categories are determined by points. I would imagine each track or group has a set of rules that fit.

I sometimes think politicians and bureaucrats get feet in the various doors and just add shit because they can. I sort of liked the original/old AMA ie AMA when the M was for motorcycle not motorcyclist. Xenophobic at best.. Novice-Amateur-Expert-National Expert.

Hopefully,
there will never be pink plates..


I am "supposed" to get a lap or two in on a custom ride come this spring. A Honda 125GP with a late and much modded Honda 450 motocross engine. Where's that Nick dude now.. LOL

Some of the guys from both Oregon and Washington are stumping for a new race class. About 10-12 years ago a couple of Seattle guys cobbed up some 165 Hondas. The idea took off and they made an active search for trashed bikes, garage queens, parts and bitsas. On any race day at Seattle (PIR) or Portland (PIR) there are a shitload of them. There are a few that are really nice. One achitect has one that he built that is really fine and for what it is, damn fast.

 

Let me know what you think of that RS125 with the 450 engine in it. I've heard mixed results with doing that kind of mod.

The Goldwing video was interesting for sure. Too bad you live so far from us BB. You'd be a great NESBA member ;-)

Back to the thread!

2nd gen could be really good. If they make race tires that fit it could be even better!

BZ

 

Oh and BB, what what 250 was Nick on?

BZ

 

My vote goes for a bike I use to own . . . 1990 VFR750R (RC30).

Take a look . . .

YouTube - HONDA RC30(VFR750R) ISLE OF MAN TT

Like a fool, I sold it to help pay for my Mercedes CL600. :crazy:

Wonder how many RC30 owners we have on this site ~

 

BZ,

One of the Huskys. That SBNW was three years ago. I am staff at this gig so the minutae sometimes escapes me. I was also shooting for Dave Hough. Kinda BZ if ya know what I mean.

For the fashonistas, Nick was attired in an analogous blue wardrobe including an Arai helmet, SIDI boots, an Aerostitch Roadcrafter suit and Spidi gloves.

 

This is #2 for the owner-builder-rider. Couple of brothers. One is an engineer. #1 bike was in a much modded Honda frame of unknown origin. Fast like a mofo and real sanitary.


So if I buy a wing and move East I can be a Nesbian


My last license was for roadracing, hillclimb and Class C flattrack. Never roadraced, saw my first hillclimb less than ten years ago (way cool) and put in some miles turning left. This is to say I never rode track in OZ.. Never rode street until I was 23-24.