Dave Dodge style oil mod kits on the EBay??

I need to get one of those 1000R's. They are so hot to look at - the big "Honda" on the side fairing. I did sit on one and it does have different handle bars. It reminded me of my Hyosung 250R which was my first street bike. You build up your forearms after a year.

 

The classic mindset of first gen VF owners is to conjure up some reason why their bike is not affected by inadequate top end lubrication (and other things). It never ceases to make me chuckle! I guess for some people it takes having their rocker arms fail before they realize the truth - it applies to all of them.

The 83's seem to have it the worst. Honda put some band-aid changes in place for the 84-86 model years that helped ever-so-slightly but clearly did not remove it altogether.

 

On an interesting side note, I recently read Julian Ryder's book on the V4s (this is a great read if you don't have this on the library shelf yet).

He mentions that there was not one report of a cam related failure in all the hours of Factory testing. The reason he surmises is that the Factory test riders let their engines properly warm up before riding. He goes on to write that this and incorrect adjustments when setting the valve lash (due in part to not having line-bored cams and also the forked rocker design) were the two main culprits of the dreaded 'camshaft crisis'.

Not to say that installing a top end oil kit isn't a plus but it does make one pause when considering a 'start engine, put jacket, helmet and gloves on and then ride' kind of warm-up. Gotta get these engines hot (not warm) before riding.

 

thanks - getting it hot is the kind of information I need.

 

Yeah, that's not the only piece of misleading information in that book! What he failed to mention is that those bikes were ridden at speed all day long, so no idling at stoplights when hot (a known source of the problem). As noted, they started up each bike in the morning and let them run at a high idle to FULLY warm them up before riding. Do you do that? Yeah, me either. Line boring and rocker design (besides face hardness) have never been proven to play any role in top end failure.

Once again, people are still searching for that little shred of evidence that proves their bike isn't affected. All of this while there are mounds of evidence showing that it is. Get the point?

 

Tink sounds like your on your period. Get some cranberry juice, my wife says it helps

 

I think the 83 VF750F got hot. A small section of the lower cowl on mine is melted. I haven't had it out riding since I bought it but it looks to me like it got hot.

 

10 out of 10 college professors say not to use Wikipedia as a source... finding info is ok on Wiki, but then look else where .... iss the info on Wiki correct most of it.. but with the ability to have random joe snuffy add erroneous information, as well as remove info, make it not a credible source.

I am actually interested in how many of the gen 1's "died" a violent death.. such as , how many were abused you know. not taken care of maintenance wise, ran like they were running away from hell's fury. And how many of the meticulously maintained ones died even after living a nice peaceful ridden but not abused life..... pretty sure that I could abuse an engine and its gonna break..... I am sure that there are more than a metric ton of the gen 1's still floating around being driven daily that have no problems mechanically . I know of at least three here in Santa Barbara, all are taken care of and all have no issues...and they do not have the oil mod done to them...


" they started up each bike in the morning and let them run at a high idle to FULLY warm them up before riding. Do you do that? Yeah, me either. "

lots of people do...you are making an assumption here..

 

No way!

College professors dont say not to use it they say dont cite it. Mainly because you would look like an idiot

It can be perfectly credible and only a fool would not cross reference the information in question before deeming it so. That would apply to any information found on the net