Cutting out

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  1. magee

    magee New Member

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    Please someone tell me why my Fi cutts out on me this time of year when it's cold. She cut out me 8 times on the way home last night, I dread to think what would have happend if she did it to me going through the tunnel!!! What happens is all power goes and the clock resets, I have to resort to banging the seat with my fist and then the lights come back on and I can start her again. Eventually once she's warmed up after about 20mins of this she'll be fine. Also there is a smell of burning electrics. I have no trouble at all once the weather has warmed up again, this problem occurs only for a couple of months in the year. I have come to the conclusion that it could be down to two things:
    Regulator/rectifier
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    The datalool alarm

    Does this sound like a r/r problem to anyone? I wouldn't associate this with total power loss, and the r/r would normaly run hot, why would this cause a problem in the cold waether???

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    well, first off, you smell burning wires....you have a short somewhere, trasck this down and you'll find your problem.. banging on the seat? yeah you have a short , probably a positive wire has worn through enough to make contact with part of the frame under the seat. as far as it only doing it when the weather is cold.... maybe it has something to do with expanding and contracting, wire will do that.. all though not sure of the temperature fluctuation in your neck of the woods.... find the short then look into maybe your RR is failing but since you can start it back up after a bit it doesn't sound like your 'RR
     


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    02 VFR Rider New Member

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    you are loosing power for a bit.
    I think you need to look into the VFRness if you have not done the wire harness fix yet.
    there seems to be something about that stock battery that doesnt like the cold and I think it has something to do w/ the harness.
    The other option is to make sure your bike is up to running temp before you hop on it.
     


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    Agreed! It's the wiring harness and maybe even the R/R. You just described the exact way my R/R failed on my 05 VFR due to the issues with the harness. What year is your bike? the 2002-2005 had a wiring harness recall...
     


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  5. Metallican525

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    I don't wanna be a douche here, but have you checked the terminals on your battery to make sure they're clean and tight?? I only ask this cause you're pounding on the seat is directly above the battery and some other main connectors, I'd start there.
     


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  6. magee

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    Ok had the bike apart last night and now I can't smell the burning but still cuts out. Only happens if you have any power on, ie lights, brake lights, or indicators. I couldn't isolate the fault but a smack cures it. I'm thinking of replacing the cableing, where can I get a vfrness in the uk and replacing all the fuses. I'm convinced it's a bad earth or a iced connection, as I mentioned this only happens in the coldest of weather.


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    Have a close look @ both ends of the battery cables, one or more may have a sneaky (intermittent) failure to connect condition.
     


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    Feel around the battery wires and the starter relay for wires that are as "hard as silicone tits" The unwrap them and find where the wires were melted and fused. Check all contacts in the area, clean with contact cleaner and dielectric grease and make sure any of the wires are not fused /touching.

    Let me know...I had a similar issue..
     


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  9. Metallican525

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    I don't think the VFRness is "available" in the UK. That is to say, I don't think anyone localy to you distributes them, I'm sure wiremybike will be happy to ship one to you but I guess the shipping over the pond costs a pretty penny eh.
     


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  10. magee

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    Mystery solved, it was the 30 amp fuse, I took another look at it and although it didn't look like it had blown on first inspection it had in fact gone. Strange how a fuse can blow but not enough to fail completely. OK there maybe a fault that caused it to blow in the first place so I will have to continue to monitor but all the origional electrical gremlins have gone! Thanks to all who contributed to help solve this one.


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    Check your grounds. Engine to battery - and battery to frame.
    If it does not have a ground from battery to frame - add one.

    Usually there is just the ground or NEG cable to starter and the engine is grounded to the frame,
     


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