Chain Replacement... To Remove Packing Grease or Not?

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  1. reg71

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    I always wondered about that... What if it's a small but has flat end? then it's still abolt isn't it? Doesn't screw imply pointed tip and small and bolt is flat tip and bigger?
     


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    new chain lube and packaging

    I called the DIAMOND chain company. Maker of motorcycle roller chains going back to 1969 at least.

    They told me that the lube on the outside of the chain is also inside the chain rollers and is an excellent lube made by the Fuchs Company.

    Each Manufacturer may have a different type of lube. You have to contact your chain manufacturer.
     


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    the last two chains I have replaced, I just left the stuff on and rode. It collects a lot of shit, though and the first chain clean afterward takes a little while... I switched to teeflon spray now, and I like it pretty well. seems to hold on pretty good and the chain seems to look a little cleaner longer. a lot of guys on here have recommended it so I thought I'd give it a try AND they sell it at ACE which is cheaper than any lube from the dealership.
     


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    No, because a you can have a hex head bolt smaller than 1/4 inch and the proper name is machine screw.
    It does not matter what style the shape of the head is.
    There are some very old machinery that had large counter sunk machine screws. They don't use those much anymore.

    I don't think you will see a 1/2 inch bolt with a head designed for a screwdriver because they do not make screwdrivers that big.

    So if it is for metal it is called machine screw.
    If it is for wood it is called a screw - unless it is 1/4 inch or larger and has a hex head then it is a lag bolt for wood.


    Wood SCREWS are usually pointed.
    Lag BOLTS (hex head) are made for wood (pointed) and are 1/4 inch or larger.
     


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    Do you mean TRI-FLOW??? (teflon) Orange and black can?
     


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    No o-ring chain is sold unlubed. Also your not lubing the inside of the pins. That is done at factory. Your lubing the o-rings to keep them from drying out. If the o-rings dry out then the lube comes out or crud gets in.
     


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    lots of good info
     


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    +1, plus your putting a barrier between the metal roller and the metal sprocket. You don't want metal to metal contact. If you had that the chain and sprockets would not last very long. I switched to the Dupont Teflon wax spray this time for my new chain. Only about 800 miles on it. So far so good and NO messy greasy rear wheel and sprocket.

    There's a Yamaha site I was at were a guy was using WD40 only on his chains. He's put about 17k miles on his current one. The link was in a previous post here about chain lubing. Thing is WD40 is a water repellent, but also washes off with enough water. I wonder how much riding in the rain he does. Can't say I'd use WD40 because of that fact and don't know about the metal to metal protection. Wondering how often he sprays his chain.
     


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    nah, it's Dupont teflon multi-use dry, wax lubricant. So far so good and I like buying at my local ACE hardware when I can...

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    I'm a noob here, but I've been using WD-40 to clean my chain and sprocket. It's cheap enough to not really matter how much I use, it helps to lube, and it has several other uses. I've heard nothing but good things about the Teflon Multi-Use. I might have to give her a go! Do you notice as much dirt/gunk build up w/it?
     


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    Most of us use WD-40 to clean the chain and other dirty parts of the bike...

    However... As we all know it cleans gunk and oil really well. When it penetrates the rings of the chain, it sometimes cleans the oil out of exactly where you want to keep it, those rollers. A little moisture and the chain then fails. I spray WD-40 on a rag or use kerosene to clean, but then use an actual lubricant to keep the chain in it's best condition.
     


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    Wd40 is a penetrant and a very very very ligt lubricant. I stopped using wd40 years ago as there are many better products out there.
     


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    The Tri flow is better because the teflon will support a load, where as the WD 40 will not.
    I had a friend that used WD40 for years on her sewing machine and it still made noise.
    One day we sprayed Tri Flow with Teflon in it on the sewing machine and ALL the noise immediately stopped.

    But the motorcycle chain lube works very well. You spray it on and it goes into all the rollers. You let it dry over night and it gets very thick and sticky and does not fly off.
     


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    I will vouch for the grunge brush. Its the greatest thing since sliced bread and quite possibly even since the wheel. If you don't have one, you're doing things the hard way.
     


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