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Instructional Video of what first motorcycle not to ride

Discussion in 'Anything Goes' started by John451, Jun 27, 2008.

  1. John451

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    Check out this Instructional Video of a poor choice of motorcycle to learn on. Sad thing is the guy while seeming ok will probably be scared off trying to learn to ride when all he needed was a good teacher and a suitable learner machine in the first instance.

    Linky:
    Bad First Experience on Motorcycle - Video
     


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  2. FrankoQ

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    Very funny...
    very upsetting too. How can those EEEDIOTS let him do that?

    A friend recently bought a bike. Per all his friends (me included) advice,
    he settled for a ninja 650. But it took some persuasion. He wanted to start on a gixer. Noooooooo. Fortunately, he's a good kid and followed the advice.
    He also went to the Motorcycle class. So, his very first ride was on a 250.
    He's still adjusting to the 650. Imagine him on the gixer.

    But we see more and more kids that think all they need is to hop
    on any bike and they are good to go. :mad:
     


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    So stupid. Why a 954 for a first bike??? And no jacket??? Just the "armored tee shirt"???

    The dude didn't even know how the clutch worked.

    Why don't people have any common sense anymore?!? I had been riding for nealry 4 years the first time I rode my brother's GSX-R 750, and I was scared shitless the whole time. I had respect for it, and the trouble it could get me into.

    That guy has no common sense, obviously no respect for the bike, and was a tool to boot. Got what he deserved.
     


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    either the helmet has a long strap or it is not even fastened!

    Darwin is hard at work with his particular brand of selection!

    John
     


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    Nice clutch work! Hang on to her! Thanks for the post John!

    :vtr2:
     


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    Yikes that could have been much worse for the guy. The bike taking a few lateral rolls probably isn't good for it. To watch a good rider ride a motorcycle makes it look easy, so I think many people think they can just jump on and ride.
     


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    Lottsa power! Mebbee I buy one of those.
     


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    Jeez, what a fool! And this is at BOTH the student and the teacher. Did you see how the teacher is standing in FRONT of the bike even when it's moving?

    However, as for the choice of a learner bike, I would have to add it's all about the rider not the bike. A moron can get into trouble with a 250 as much as a liter bike.

    The first bike I ever rode and learned on is a Kawasaki ZX-7R and I never dropped it and never had any close calls even remotely like the one in the video. Yes, it's a really fast bike but through careful discipline I was able to pick up on it and ride safely.

    Plus my VFR is my very first bike ever and I was a little intimidated by the weight and power but I had to really respect the bike before I got comfortable with it. The very first weekend I went on a ride with it I only went up to about 4.5K on the tach and I even had cars PASSING me.

    It wasn't until after about 2 months that I started feeling more relaxed and in tune with the bike. Granted some people don't have that kind of patience but let's face it if you don't have that kind of patience you shouldn't even be riding a trike!
     


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    I agree with the Darwin comment.

    Darwinism was TRYING to do it's job here but the intended selection was one step ahead of Mr Darwin's theory. With riding skills like that ("Which one is the clutch?") & a teacher who is apparently dumber than a bucket full of dog hair, you can bet your bottom dollar that Natural Selection will be riding in formation with this clown.

    KC-10 FE out...
    :plane: :usa2:
     


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    Poor motorcycle. It was used and abused and will need counceling for years to come.
     


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    Do you ever feel like you missed out on something ?

    After a 16 year break loved getting back into biking again in late '02 with a 250 by doing basic riding training and finding empty car parks practicing throttle, clutch and brake control in Uturns emergency stops slowly gaining back confidence before ringing out the Learner bike to the Max all the time grinning madly without breaking traction or touching the insane speeds the 954 in the Vid could rapidly achieve.
     


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    Joey touched on something that has been really bothering me lately or I should say, more than usual.

    At the expense of sounding like a flaming jerk I am really growing tired of hearing people saying you can learn on "any" bike as long as you respect it. Although you can learn to ride on any bike I highly question how good of a rider they really are or I should say they appear to have very little proficiancy becasue they never learned the basics (i.e. braking, cornering, slow speed manuvers, throttle control) and when they try and learn on them thay are on a machine that expects proficiency from the rider, little mistakes suddenly get magnified ten fold.

    I saw the same thing when I used to shoot competition, and the overwhenming majority of shooters who were very good, started on .22's, not 308's and 30-06's. Now the few who started backwards as I called it were decent shots, but they never learned to fully relax becasue the recoil of their rifles. Therefore, they never reached the level of proficiency the one's who started on 22's did...maybe a weird analogy, but I think many of you get what I am trying to say.

    And spare me the examples of your friend(s) who started out on a gsxr1000 and now race. There is always an anomoly in the crowd.

    Finally, if any of your dought my pure logic and reason on this, I beg you to go and watch a track day from the pits and watch and talk to the poeple who ride in A group or any group and notice one, they are wicked fast and two, what machines they ride...some are liter bikes, but the majority are 600's of some kind. Or my favorite, the guys and girls who ride SV650's or Aprilia RS250 two strokes. These two bikes have 60-70 HP at the rear wheel and you see these riders pass bikes like its nothing! I love asking them questions becasue these riders know its all about skill, not power and they share their knowledge freely. When asked why they ride a smaller bike a very common answer is becasue they are "fun" to ride. "I don't have to worked nearly as hard as the poepl on liter bikes to get the same results, its about keeping your speed up, especially corner speed so I can make a hard drive out of the corner to pass the faster people when they brake hard for the next corner". And "Man, I've ridden a liter bike on the track and its hard work, they don't forgive any mistakes" I always laughed at that last statement. Serioulsy, go too NESBA : Northeast Sports Bike Association see what track is near you and go watch a track day pit side. You won't regret it.

    Joey, I am not singling you out, you just brought up what had been bothering me.

    I am getting off my soap box, I guess I just worship skills over shear power.

    Man, I need a beer, I've been wound tighter than a spring lately.

    BZ
     


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    IMHO the only way one should learn to ride a motorcycle is by taking an MSF course. It is so easy for learners to do just what that guy did. The bike is obviously not a beginners bike - it looked tall for the guy for a start and with too much power and a grabby clutch. The MSF guys make sure that you are on a bike that you can easily flat foot. Plus they use bikes with small engines that have progressive / easy to engage clutches.

    I don't think that the video is funny or anything to laugh about. I'm sure that people are doing it every day AND paying the consequences too! Its sad and frustrating to see people like that.

    Just my 2c

    PS this is a funny video - http://www.maniacworld.com/Kid-vs-Mud-Puddle.html
     


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    I don't think the MSF even existed when I started to ride! Maybe I am wrong. Anyway, I started riding in the dirt on a 100 cc Hodaka SuperRat. I graduated to the street on a Honda S-90. Up and out to a 350 Honda Scrambler (POS), a Triumph 500, a Triumph 650 Bonneville, a BMW 750, a . . . well, you get the idea. Back to a VFR - the best overall motorcycle I have ever ridden.

    It's tough for a beginner nowadays. A Honda Rebel isn't cool. So how about a CBR600RR as a learner bike? Ugh . . . .
     


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    Dumb ass. Not only the rider, but his friend too. Start small (dirt bikes are good to learn on)
     


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    I think everyone should learn on the dirt on an XR 80/100. Thats what I did...it has saved my butt already a time or two.
     


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    Holy old thread batman!
     


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    Ya, it is old, but stuff like this should be circulated around frequently to remind people to start small when learning to ride. Lots of things got hurt in that video. The guy riding, his buddy has a smashed bike, and it might even scare someone away from motorcycles.
     


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    I rarely look at the dates so I started reading it then looked at the link (which is still up after 2 years) and kept thinking 'I have already seen this...' It almost looks staged the way they are laughing and stuff, but who who scratch up all those plastics for a goof (except the guys from jackass).
     


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    Right on John. You can only know how comfortable and fun those little bikes are if you have ridden one. They exist on the far end of the scale as far as giving the rider the confidence and feel of the bike to really lean, accelerate hard and brake, due to low power and low weight, and upright riding position. In fact, I would say the VFR is in the middle of that scale, being somewhat sporty and comfy at the same time.

    The sportier the bike, the less fun it is to ride around town, especially if it is sprung properly for sport-riding. Other end of the scale: My RC51 is a beast around town, with so much torque, tall gearing and a suspension to rattle your fillings that makes going through a normal intersection something that you really need to pay attention to. It's not really that enjoyable until you hit the open road. However I could get a similar thrill in my neighborhood with a Ninja 250, railing around the corners and launching over speedbumps (I think I need a supermotard).

    Beginners typically need some time to get smooth, and be able to trust their bike and tires. Ninja 250s and other such light-weight bikes are perfectly suited for this. Maybe an old GS500 Suzook or CB350-450 if you are a large person.
    Point is, its so much easier to master doing figure-eights and turning/braking drills with a willing bike, over a high-strung race-replica.

    I'll stop now as I am repeating what we all already know...
     


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