What is missing from my VFR engine? *pics*

Hi all, I purchased a VFR 800 VTEC engine yesterday off ebay and have noticed their are a few parts missing. Is it possible for one of you experts/gurus to have a look at the pics I have uploaded and tell me what is missing from my engine in order to get it running. This engine is destined to be used in a buggy project.

From what I can tell I shall need a wiring loom, clutch cover, ignition coils, and I think some carbs (though it is fuel injected?!?!)











Any information you can provide about this engine is greatly appreciated

Thanks

Nick

 

I've never looked at one out of a bike, but it looks like it's missing the cylinders? unless there part of the block? or really short?

 

Thanks for the reply, im pretty sue they are in the block somewhere im just trying to figure out what things bolt around the engine that I havent got.

 

Try going to bikebandit.com they have parts fiches that you can look at. See what's missing.

 

Looks like you are missing the clutch slave cylinder, thermostat housing and thermostat, complete fuel injection system, starter, and the stuff you have mentioned just to start the list of major things. You might also want the airbox that goes with it for the bottom of the box that attaches to the fuel rails and the velocity stacks. I'm sure you could customize the upper half of the box to route it however you wanted.

I would think you would also need the ECU for the fuel injection system and then would have to do a few misc. things to trick the ECU into thinking all was well such as eliminating the O2 sensors and the PAIR valve block off.

I'm sure there is more I'm missing but there are plenty of us around here to take up my slack.

 

The motor itself appears to be intact. Its just all the stuff on the outside that seems to be missing.

 

Ive seen a bunch of useful parts for a VFR800FIW-1 (1998-01) model. As mine is 2003 will some of them fit?

In particular the throttle bodies and wiring loom?

 

You would have to cross reference parts to see if they are the same or not. There were very little changes made to the 6th gen engines vs the 5th gen engines. Most notable was the addition of VTEC and some changes to the throttle bodies. If one knew what they were doing, I'm sure that the 5th gen throttle bodies could work, however they might not work correctly with the 6th gen ECU that you would need due to VTEC. The clutch slave cylinder should fit and the starter might. I imagine that you could use either a 5th gen or 6th gen thermostat and thermostat housing as they are both located inline in their own housing and they are probably the same temp for when they open/close.

I bet that will make for a mean buggy.

 

Thankyou for the reply. I wish i'd seen the reply sooner as the auction for the bits just ended, nevermind though its not something I should rush. I think it is best for me to visit a bike breakers and get all the bits at once for a slightly discounted price. Then if a couple of bits are wrong I can always sell some on without oo much of a loss.

this was the ebay advert for the parts...
JOB LOT CLEARANCE HONDA VFR800 VFR 800 1999 SPARES !!! on eBay (end time 14-Feb-10 21:07:12 GMT)

I wouldnt mind if the throttle bodies made VTEC not work, i'd be happy at this stage to just have a complete engine with all the bolt ons. From the pics ive sen now im fairly confident they should fit. A VFR 800 block is a VFR 800 block. I work alot on honda car engines so im gaining an understanding on how honda manufacture their engines and how mounting holes are the same. However I do see alot of parts for the vfr750. did honda change the block or just rebore the cylinders to make it 800 instead of 750?

If anyone has any links where I can read about my engine that would be greatly appreciated. I believe my engine is a VFR800 A-2 VTEC but if theres anywhere I can confirm this on the block that would help also.

 

The throttle bodies wouldn't have anything to do with whether VTEC engaged or not, that would all be done by the ECU. The problem might be that the ECU may not play well with the injectors from a 5th gen throttle body.

You are correct that they should fit. The VFR800 block is the VFR800 block. The 6th gen engine is just a more refined, slightly tech-ier, emissions friendly version of the 5th gen engine.

 

You really better off buying a wrecked bike so you have all the parts to set it up, throttle bodies, exhaust, coils, regulator, ECU, airbox, radiator, thermostat, oil cooler, wiring harness, clutch slave and misc stuff.

 

Thanks for the replies fellas

I havent seen many wrecked bikes of this caliber. Im happy to do this project as and when parts spring upat the right price on forums and ebay and that way it keeps costs down. If I could of got a complete wrecked bike for £400 I would of done that but couldnt see any with half decent engines.

Does anyone have any parts they wanna sell me cheap?

 

I HATE those EBAY sellers.!!!!! They sell engines completely striped and then make you go on an Easter Egg hunt to find all the right stuff again.

STUPID!!!! You are missing the exhaust header studs too and you will need to buy a COMPLETE wiring harness with all the black boxes,relays etc.,.
That engine looks like they rolled it around the yard in the mud.
I would look for a complete beat up machine with all the parts and keep that engine for spare parts.

I hate when people remove fuel injection systems from engines. IT IS PART of the engine.
You got cheated and now you will really pay the price looking for every nut and bolt.
Just find a complete vehicle and satrt that way.

You are not missing the cylinders. Cheeeeessssshhhh!!

 

Why is the back head so clean and the front head so filthy???

 

I have the throttle bodies, wiring harnesses, ECU, relays, starter, thermostat housing, and probably some other stuff you'll need. I won't give the stuff away, but I'll make you a good deal. PM me.

 

the front of the engine is behind the front tire, the whole dirt will be spurt to the engine front.

you can see it after a ride during a rainshower.

but these engine is very dirty - it looks like as it was rolled in a mudhole



kind regards

Klaus-Peter

 

It shall be rolled in a mudhole if I can get it strapped to this buggy

I have ordered most of the parts I need from a breakers yard I found breaking a VFR on ebay. He is sending me the wiring loom, ignition coils, starter motor, ECU, Carbs/TB's/injectors, VTEC rectifier and starter relay all for £240 delivered which I didnt think was too bad. Can anyone think of anything ive forgotten? Im going to wire it all up to a push button start so will not need an ignition barrell or key but have heard there is an immobiliser that links the key to the ECU. Can anyone tell me more about this?

Also I am still on the lookout for the clutch cover that can be seen missing in the picture. Does anyone have one up for grabs?

 

that buggy is going to rock when you get going....would love to see vidio when its done !!

 

I laughed my head off at the cylinders missing too

 

The easiest way to bypass the H.I.S.S. immobilizer is to use an ECU and harness from a North American model, they do not use that system. AFAIK the European ECU is useless without the original key. Maybe a Honda dealer can get you a key if you provide the VIN and proof of ownership. Good luck.