Collector selling off nice 1000R

1984 Honda VF1000R *7,000 miles!*willing to take payments*

 

Lets see now. 1986, in near perfect condition, with 1984 side covers, drooping signals front and back, nice aftermarket 4-1 exhaust, Euro (?) gas tank, something is just abit askew. I wonder what else is weird? Still, looks good.

Sorry, just read ad again, says 1984. Since I THOUGHT the VF1KR was only sold from 85-86 stateside, I guess this is an import?

Larry

 

Nice bike but that price is a too high.It is an 86 and they were sold here, the dual headlight was 86 and the single was 85.

 

I like the hose clamps that are holding the turn signals on..was that an option in 86?

 

He has a Guzzi for sale too. 2000 Moto Guzzi V1100 Sport *willing to take payments*

 

It's got the '85 paint, but could it be an import? Didn't the Euro spec 1000R have that color scheme and dual headlights in '84 / '85?

 

AN obvious oxymoron here when you say a collector is selling ????????

Inspect cams b4 purchase !

I LOVE the headlights, but the price is seriously out of touch with reality !

 

To all the Americans reading this, this bike is an1984 VF1000RE. I also have one, new in 1984. Yes, we had them in OZ before you got them. The 1984 bike had a different shape tank compared to the 1985 and 1986 models. Thats paint scheme is correct. The side covers are genuine, not something that was made up. The US 1985 model had the ugly single headlight, and the1986 model had the twin headlights. The 1986 US model had a slightly different paint scheme.

Exhaust looks different as I see the pipes hanging down more than mine, and I cannot see the collector box. Droopy blinkers. Yes, that's a bit strange, as one of mine was hanging down as the bike fell over once , and bent the bracket. I have since straightened mine. To have all four droopy seems strange.

Re price..Well,a couple of mint 1984 VF1000R have sold in OZ recently from Aust $ 8,500 to OZ $ 10,000. Current exchange rate is about Aust. $1.00 = US $ 0.88...so, Aust $10,000 is US $8,800 or so. In Australia, we pay a lot more for our bikes, than you guys do. You are spoilt, and just dont realise it

 

You can tell from the shape of the tank and the frame that it is, in fact, a 1984 model. It takes a trained eye to see the differences, but they are there. Pretty rare to find those in the US for sure!

The price...... maybe if he had a 25% off sale it would get close.

 

Thanks for setting me straight. I see those side panels are original for '84. I was looking at the paint lines and they look to be identical to the '85. Looking closer I see the fairing difference w/ the dual side openings. I still can't see a difference in the frame or tank profile.

Was the '84 sold in Canada or only Europe/Asia? Makes you wonder if it has US registration.

 

The 84 tank is more flat on the top and makes a more pronounced bend down at the rear (if that makes sense). If you look closely at the spot where your gut would touch that's the giveaway.

As for the frame, the 85-86 frames are wider around the rear head because the heads are wider than the 84 version. The 84 model did not have gear drive to the cams by the way, that's why teh 85-86 heads are wider. On the left side of the bike you can see that the frame on this bike is straight, the 85-86's make a bend inward right behind the rear head.

Here are two pictures that might help:

1984


1985-1986

It's not that difficult to get a US registration. In Indiana anyway, the process is exactly the same as getting a title for an out-of-state vehicle.

 

I see what you mean on the tank, I wasn't sure if it was an illusion from the pic or actually shaped that way. I guess the '84 R had the same motor as the '84 F then?

BTW, just got my '85 mostly wrapped up this week and legal, had to get more inspections from the DMV and Highway Patrol to get a new title. But it's roadworthy now and runs well enough. I wish I had put new springs in the forks to replace the jello that's in there now! Front master needs a rebuild & I'll be painting the fender soon and touching up the other fairings. The project budget for this is empty so it is what it is for now.

 

Ok..Time to sort you guys out again. The 1984 VF1000RE [DID ..REPEAT..DID have GEAR DRIVEN CAMS. The VF1000F model had chain drive to the cams. My 1984VR100RE has GEAR DRIVEN CAMS. In fact, the cams were replaced at 4,000 KM ( 2,500 miles), and at 12,000 KM...I could not believe how HONDA could supply a bike that did that. I know, at the time, I was spending more $$ changing oil, than I was on petrol.

I was going to point out the differences in the tank, but, the posted photos show that. I have a new 1985 tank that I purchased on eBay from USA for my bike, as I made the mistake of parking my bike with fuel in the tank while I worked in Japan for 5 years. Result..Totally stuffed and rusted tank. I was lucky to obtain an new 85 USA tank on eBay for US$ 255 back in 2004.

The VF1000RE was released for sale in Australia ( Europe as well) in June 1984. My bike was originally registered on June 4th., 1984. VF100R was never sold in Japan. Many large capacity Japanese bikes in Japan in the 1990's were actually re-imported there.

The differences between 84 motors and 85/85 motors, are that the later bikes had better machining in the cam carrier department. Good old HONDA did not line machine the cam carriers/ caps in place, but, simply added the caps afterwards. This, there were tolerance build up etc in this department, and apparently excessive play which led to numerous problems. Of course, a lousy supply of oil when the bike was initially resulted in excessive cam lobe wear. My cams at 4,000 KM looked like someone had attacked them with an axe. If you look at the cylinder head on later bikes, you will see the half round section on the cylinder head where the line boring and reaming tools go.

The fairings are different on the sides to allow for hot air to escape . The USA models have a small door as well (?? ) that can be opened or closed for hot air to escape.

The side covers on 84 are solid, whereas, the 85 / 86 side covers are ventilated. I dont like the look of them , because you can see the battery and catch tank. Maybe, its more efficient, but, not as nice to look at.
Of course, the 84 bikes had twin headlights, whereas 85 was single headlight, and 86 was twin head light.

As the cylinder heads were different, radiator hoses are different on left hand side of bike. The 84 bike used the frame to carry coolant as well.

And, one of the best extras that you can do for a VF1000R , is to fit braided brake lines. They improve the feel and stopping power greatly. I made up my own lines about a week after I got the bike, and the lines are still perfect. Lots of kits available now, and the VENHILL stuff from UK looks very nice..

 

I do not believe the 84 R and F engines are the same.


I love that black frame. You've pretty much sold me on it. When I get to working on my current R project I'm going with that color.