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  1. TheUnnamed11

    TheUnnamed11 Banned

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    i got arrested today. the court screwed up with a impropper plates ticket i have a court date for. here is my problem.

    i pulled up next to a cop today. then we pulled down the road. i made it a point to drive slow and obey all the rules. he then stopped his car to get behind me and pulled me over. if you speed you get pulled over. if you dont speed you get pulled over.

    what is a rider supposed to do around cops? just give in and ride to the police station and turn myself in for being a safe legal rider?
     


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    "i got arrested today. the court screwed up with a impropper plates ticket i have a court date for."

    Could you elaborate on what it is exactly you got arrested for? What were you charged with exactly?
     


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  3. TheUnnamed11

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    i shouldent have been pulled over nor had a warrent. someone at the court screwed up. iv got a pretrial hearing on tuesday for improper plates on my car.
     


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    I don't get it... you got arrested for what? was there something on the system for your prior "plates" ticket? did you get that ticket today? how is it that a "safe and legal rider" gets arrested...? Please fill in the blanks if you can.

    edit: we posted at the same time.

    You got arrested for your plates ticket on your car then.
     


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    he more than likely had an outstanding warrant for not paying the ticket. Is it possible that your payment didn't go through? even so you should have recieved a letter in the mail about it. What was the reason for the officer to run your plates.. I know that in my experience as an LEO AND a dispatcher we were not to run plates just for the hell of it..Does it happen? yep. Is it right? Nope. We are guaranteed the right to privacy. having police officers running plates randomly is wrong. IF he had probable cause to pull you over, thats why he ran your plates..I 'm pretty sure he wasn't out to get you.
    My younger brother had the same type of situation, he got a speeding ticket and forgot to pay it...2 and a half years later he got pulled over for something stupid and got "arrested" they released him gave him a court date and that was that. I just reread your post and you HAVE a court date for the improper registration?
    Then there is another reason your not telling as to why you got arrested...
     


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    Yep pretty vauge. I am an Ex-cop and yes there are cops that run plates for no reason except for the way they look (not racial). Leagle...Hell now.....Prove that they did it illeagley....almost next to none. Need more info.
     


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    I fugred that someone from Texas you would say "legalike".... (BTW I'm just messin witcha)
     


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    Interesting. As a LEO in Canada, I'm amazed (and envious) of the search powers police seem to have in the U.S. Seems over there the following constitutes a "consent search":

    Officer: You don't have any drugs in your car? So you don't mind if I check your car then, right?

    Driver: Ummm...I guess not...

    That just wouldn't hold up in our courts. To get a fully legal consent, there's a checklist of things that have to be explained to the subject and he has to understand each thing (ie. you can stop the search at any time; if I find anything illegal you will be charged, etc.) You'd have to be crazy to agree to that search if you're holding anything illegal.

    ON THE OTHER HAND...yes, we can run plates "at random". Since enforcement of the Highway Traffic Act includes ensuring that val. tags are up to date, that the plate is registered to the correct car, that the driver isn't suspended...all of these things ARE our grounds to run a plate. I don't see it as invasion of privacy because you're only being told who the plate is supposed to be registered to...you don't actually know who the driver is. You DO need a specific reason to pull a car over though (save for RIDE programs where every car gets stopped).

    I don't know, maybe it's different in other provinces. Interesting to see the differences between countries though. In the original poster's scenario (riding motorcycle, police run the plate, see the owner has a warrant, pull the bike over, identify the driver as the owner, arrest) - there would be absolutely nothing wrong with that where I live.
     


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    he deffinatly had no reason to pull me over or run my plates. here they run your plates every time they pull someone over.

    as far as paying a ticket there isent one due untill after the pretrial tuesday or a trial after that.

    basicially they are saying i never went to court for the improper plates charge, which i did...
     


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    (riding motorcycle, police run the plate, see the owner has a warrant, pull the bike over, identify the driver as the owner, arrest

    he did not run my plate untill after he pulled me over.

    he had no reason to pull me over. i slowed under his speed and merged into his lane behind him. last i knew merging was not against the law.
     


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    Did you ask him what his initial reason was for the stop?

    In any case, since he only executed the pre-existing warrant and there were no new charges laid by him, it doesn't sound like it's going to be an issue.
     


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    no shit!!!!!!!
     


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    OK all you LEO's or ex LEO's. What about the electronic/photo systems that are new that runs all plates from the police car as the officer drives down the street. I saw this on tv and there's a camera that zeros in on passing car plate, parked or driving, and they search for bogus,stolen or what ever from the plate numbers. Seems to me they are running all plates no matter who you are or if you did anything wrong. I take it this is legal.??
     


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    the reason that it holds up in our courts is because most offenders are broke and dont have a lawyer. the state ALWAYs has a lawyer - and ussually one that puts his reputation for winning before his consceince.as a law abiding citizen ( mostly ) and someone that is on what I consider the right side of the law, this reply is not bashing my local police or my countries judicial system - but there definatly are some flaws and some loopholes. some of the flaws are there to circumvent the loopholes and vice versa. I have done nothing wrong before and paid the price. I have done wrong before and gotten away scott free ( when I was a youth ). In the end, the sad part is alot of it comes down to who has more money or interest. Illegal things are done on both sides of the law and then won in court depending on the lawyer. We all know that.
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    I think in respect to legality it really depends on where one is. I know up here the police can run you AND/OR pull you over simply to check if you have a drivers license. To the OP though, I'm not sure why your upset, if there was a mistake on the courts parts then it's not your problem and you have nothing to be concerned about. If you messed up with your plates in the first place then it's your fault and unfortunately your dealing with the repercussions.
     


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    Wow you folks have it easy the other side of the pond. Across Europe there is a growing network of ANPR (Automatic Number Plate Recognition) cameras installed on most major routes constantly checking for vehicle infringements. Similar units are installed in most traffic police cars, which immediately check the vehicle is not stolen, has all taxes paid and has insurance. British traffic officers rarely patrol nowadays, they just spend their time parked up where the traffic gets bunched up and wait for the system to give an alert, they then hop out and pull dozens of cars every day. Sort of like shooting fish in a barrel. If your licence is suspended the system flags any vehicles registered at your address which you just might be driving, so sometimes whole families can get routinely hassled until the ban expires. Bit rough but it certainly gets people to pay their parking fines!
     


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    He seeing if you have a MC stamp, they do it here all the time.
     


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    There's a misconception that police are not the sharpest tools in the shed. While this may be the case with some, most are smart alpha males. There years in the streets gives them on the job training in human behaviour. So the officer that pulled you over knew you were guilty of something by the way you were acting.

    I went out yesterday and while cruising at 6k in top gear(my 5th gen is real happy there), a CHP comes up on my as real fast! I get over and he blows by @ over 100. One hour later I'm in a town that loves to pull over bikers. I pass a cop with my somewhat loud staintune, and on comes the lights, I'm thinkin Great! noise ticket. I pull over and he blows by and pulls over some beater that was in front of me. I had a lucky day!! You did not.
     


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