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New bike Finally arived and I got SCREWED!

Discussion in '1st & 2nd Generation 1983-1989' started by monkeymunch, Nov 19, 2009.

  1. monkeymunch

    monkeymunch New Member

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    You may remember the 86 vf1000r in ga that was for sale seller had youtube video of the engine noise. I bought it after the carfull examination of the 20+ pictures he sent me. I got my own shipper from u ship.com

    The shippper said he could hav it to me in 7 days the contract was for 10 days. well 34 days later it is here I had to threaten to call the cops and report it stolen and delivery date was postponed 5 times. seller was transporting on a flat bed and said he carfully wraps bikes in plastic.

    The bike showed up today trashed. It was loosly under a tarp that slapped against the paint for 3000 miles and chaffed it a little, the muffler is ground all the way though, the tail is ground and half gone the subframe is ground down the tail light housing is gone. the muffler pipe broke in half, the front fender gouged real bad, and the belly fairing is shattared at the front.

    I said what the hell and the first thing he said was "its not like it fell off the trailer or somthing. he insists that this is the way he picked it up. I asked him where it has been stored for the last month and his response was "it hasnt been ridden the miles are the same" Then I noticed the speedo cable unhooked.

    What the hell. He didnt charge me for shipping cause of the time delay that he had 10 excuses for. But what can I do? The uship website is proving worthless. I can find anything about his so called bussinses. "first choice" He is an independent hauler with just a f450 and a big trailer. his phone number is based out of SC. I explained to him that these peices are not replacable.

    I need a tail section bad and pipes bad! If anyone has a lead on one please help me out. I can fix everything else.

    What can I do? I want this guy to pay!!!!:mad::mad::mad:
     


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  2. tinkerinWstuff

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    He "should" have insurance...

    We can pull a "Buyer Beware Foster's a crook" google bomb on his ass if we have to?

    Is the seller willing to cooperate? If the seller is willing to provide a sworn affidavit as to the condition of the bike when it was loaded....

    I don't suppose durring the shock of seeing it that way, you thought to get pictures of it still on his trailer?
     


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    Threaten to file a lawsuit against him and have the seller provide you with a written affadavit in case you need it. Based on the circumstances with the delayed delivery I would say that something fishy was going on with the bike.

    Regards,
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    if you have a contract in black and white, consult with a lawyer. show him the videos and pics before and show him how the bike looks now. it's very suspicious for him not to charge you-no one works for free now-a days.
     


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    Wow man, sorry to hear that.

    What's mentioned above is good stuff. See if you can get the seller on your side. If you can get the affidavit as mentioned, great. But at the least, you should be able to provide him pictures of the "after", and have him confirm that is not how he sold you the bike.

    I'm not sure if it would be helpful to file police report with the damage to your bike, but it can't hurt.

    Do you have the shippers Insurance info? Listed in the contract? If the shipper isn't going to cooperate, file a claim (along with the police report) directly with his insurance carrier.

    I'm sure it sucks seeing your new bike arrive like that, but don't make the financial burden yours. Even if you do have the money to repair it, that doesn't relieve the shipper of his responsibilities. It seems pretty evident there were some shenanigans going on with how long it took to deliver.

    The fact that he didn't charge you is a small conciliation. Sounds more to me like he was trying to be the nice guy so that you don't think he fucked the bike up.

    One last thing: Document, document, document. Take pictures. Take notes. Date them. Keep track of any and all conversations. Be detailed. list times, dates, length of conversations, etc. If this gets real ugly and you end up having legal action, if you provide a stack of papers that are nicely detailed versus a "verbal story", you'll be in a much stronger position.

    Good luck.
     


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  6. Knife

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    I don't know what the maximum recovery limit is in your (or his?) state's small claims court, but with well organized documentation, he won't have a chance in court. And you won't need a lawyer. You can file the forms and represent yourself.

    I got a maximum recovery of $5,000.00 plus expenses several years ago from an a**hole that wouldn't pay me for services rendered. I showed up in court with phone records and other pertinent documentation, all arranged neatly and chronologically. He showed up in court with his loser lawyer. The judge was even a personal acquaintance of the a**hole who stiffed me. It was short and sweet. I won, he lost.

    Afterwards, the a**hole's lawyer tripped over chairs to get to me. He offered his services to me for any future legal matters. I asked him why I would pay him for anything since I just wiped his lawyer ass all over the courtroom floor, and I'm not even a lawyer. What a dumb f*ck. And a majority of our legislators are lawyers, which explains a lot.

    By the way, I had his bank accounts frozen and he couldn't pay his bills or make payroll until he paid me. He begged me to help him out, offering to make payments over time. I made him bring cash and deliver it personally to me before I'd unfreeze his accounts. He did so. I took satisfaction in humiliating the dishonest, lying, thieving scumbag.
     


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    I'll never forgive you for the way you treated me Knife! :biggrin:
     


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    Bernie Madoff, is that you? :ass:
     


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    Dude that sucks! When I shipped my bike back from Hawaii I had nightmares that it was going to show up trashed. I had a good experience with my shipper and there wasn't a scratch on the bike when it got here.
    Did the shipper fill out a "damage sheet" or whatever it's called. When I dropped off my bike I had to walk around the bike with one of their reps and we documented every scratch and ding. When the bike arrived I had a copy of that sheet and did another walk around before I would accept delivery. When researching shippers i found most of them have $5000.00 insurance on the bike included in the cost of shipping.
    Anyway sorry you had a bad experience. Hope it all works out for you
     


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    did the shipper have the keys? The damage youdescribed sounds like it went for one hell of a joy ride.... Document document document... that s the best advice
     


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    Sorry to hear this. Especially since these bikes are far and few in between in decent shape. I'd consult with a lawyer to see what they recommend what the course of action is or as to whether there is anything that can really be done. A lawyer will know if you've got a case. Good luck. Keep us updated.
     


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    Thanks for all the advice guys. I have very close contacts with police and detectives. I am meeting with ine tommarow to get some advice on how to proceed.

    Talked to the seller today and he took pictures 1 hour before the shipper picked up the bike. I have those now. He is fully coperative.

    He did help with some information. He said the shipper placed the bike horizontally across the very rear of a flatbed. I bealive that the shipper lost a couple straps and the bike fell off the trailer with only the front still on draggin it down the road. This makes sence as the bike has no damage to the front and high sides.

    The shipper insists that he did not do it. I can not find any info on his so called company "first choice" My detective friend is looking it to that. He is bassed out of greenville SC.

    I will nopt rest until I get compensated via money or long painfull revenge.

    By the way I suggest not using the USHIP.COM web site. they have not helped at all. they will not reund my deposit and they do no background or lic checks of there vendors they just want your money. they have a dispute process with consists of leaving 1 negitive feedback. big deal.
     


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    I have tried that website noumorus times now and in the past and It does not work in english.

    I will contact you on the pipe. I dod have a set of yosh pipes of my other bike but I think they are too rough.
     


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    Wow, I remember watching that video. This really makes me leery of online shipping sites. That sucks that USHIP.COM won't even back you up. You may have to read all their fine print and find out if you can include them in your small claims case as partially liable. After all, you did pay them for a service, too. You said the speedo cable was disconnected? Did the seller verify that it was connected when he sent it? Did you get pics on the trailer as someone else suggested? The shipper has pretty much already admitted fault by not charging. I'd think you'll have no trouble getting all the damages paid for.
     


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    Wow, that is a real shame. I'm sure you are just sick over it. I sold my old Isuzu Trooper to a guy in GA. The body was mint but the tranny was on it's way out. When the buyer received it, the roof was peeled back about 2 feet. The driver told him that's how it was when he loaded it. Since I had the drivers cell phone, I called him up to find out the truth. He said he went under a low bridge and hit the roof. His boss told him to lie. I had filled out a condition sheet at the time of departure so the driver knew I knew his story was bull shit. I relayed his account to the buyer who was going to sue for damages. Some people are cheezy as hell. I'll see what I have kicking around for parts.
     


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    Picked the cheapest

    I use uship.com really regularly - they'll refund you instantly with a cancellation. It just looks like you went with the very cheapest transporter when you had some really good bids from providers with great feedback. I guess you get what you pay for. I'm somewhat surprised you wouldn't check for insurance, etc... when booking something like this. Sorry to be a downer there, but i would have probably not gone with the very cheapest without much feedback without at least checking this.
     


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    How do you know? I didn't read anything in the OP's post about how many bidders or what amount their bids were.

    Action
     


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    +1

    and poor rating still wouldn't excuse delivering damaged goods. It might explain delays or difficulty working with a guy - but the job should still be done. In this case, it wasn't.
     


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    WOW, so you "just happened" to have joined the day after this member his having issues with Uship.com and you rigorously defend them and bash the original poster? You're a clown. How much does anybody want to bet that this clown works for USHIP.COM and is posting on here to cover his company's ass? Pretty convenient that this guy joined VFRWorld the day after this thread was started. I like how he waited two days to post though. What a trickster you are!

    Go away before I get out my TROLL spray! Can we just ban this clown now?
     


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