1986 VF500 - cold weather noise

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    So I've got an '86 VF500 that runs perfectly in temperate weather (50's-70's or so). Thing is, when it dips into the low 40's or below and I travel at a high rate of speed of 65 mph or better (i.e. pretty damn cold with windchill factored in), there's this weird noise that occurs.

    The best I can describe it is as a kind of medium to high-pitched whine kind of like how a vacuum cleaner (I'm thinking particularly of a shop vac) sounds when it's on its last legs or all blocked up and just ain't working right. It sounds like it's coming from the radiator/fan area, but I can't be 100% sure. It stops when I slow down, and doesn't start until said conditions are met again.

    Any ideas?
     


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    Do you know the bikes history? How long have you owned it?
     


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    Only mine for past year. Zero knowledge of history.
     


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    Does bike temperature affect the noise at all? If you drove around town and let the temp get up to the point where the radiator fan was coming on, and then jumped down on the highway, would the noise still be there?

    Grabbin at straws here without more info.... How does your speedo behave? And I'm not talking about your jocky shorts either. Mechanical speedos like these have a habit of making funny noises when they get old and cold. Does the needle jump around at all? I wonder what would happen if you disconnected the cable down at the front wheel (ziptied it to the slider so it doesn't get caught in the wheel) and ran it?
     


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    ^^ bingo to the above reply. It's the speedo cable. Mine does it too, if I let it sit outside for a few hours in 40 degrees or below. Once I ride a few miles it gets quieter then finally stops whining.
     


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    I'm pretty sure there is a proceedure in the Clymer for lubricating the cable. Don't go using just anything and start spraying WD40 in there or something.

    I would unhook the cable for testing and see if it behaves like mtl_vf500 said his does. See if the noise goes away, then follow the manual for lube proceedure. I think they take like a dry graphite or something...
     


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    I'm definitely willing to give it a shot. However, it really only happens when the conditions I described are met, not when I first drive it after sitting in the cold. Also, it doesn't go away after driving some miles. Last night it did it towards the end of my ride as it got really cold. Also, the last speedo cable broke end of last year, so this one's brand new.

    Still, I'll give it a go and report back. Thanks to all for the suggestions.

    I'll obviously take more if they're out there, though...
     


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    There aren't a lot of options here. I find it doubtfull that it's the radiator fan because the fan would be (relatively) warm from the radiator. The engine is going to be (relatively) warm as well. Wind noise doesn't sound (no pun) likely. So that really only leaves the speedo system. Either cable or head unit.
     


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    Okay, then. That's good to hear.

    Thanks again.
     


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    Here's a quick way to check if it's the speedo cable - does it follow the road speed or engine rpm? In other words, if you are moving along and pull the clutch in and let the engine go to idle, does the sound get quiter or does it stay the same? If it stays constant then it could be the speedo cable, if the sound changes with the engine speed then it's something with the engine itself.

    Let us know what you find out!
     


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    Pretty positive that each time I've slowed down to listen better (and see if it stops or lessens), I've pulled the clutch while breaking. Since it didn't stop right away after the engine disengaged, then perhaps it's not the engine itself.
     


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    Did they change where the speedo cable is driven from in '86? In '85 it's driven by the front wheel and would have no relation to the engine.
     


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    Now you've got the first clue. I'd say the speedo cable, or the speedo itself, would be a good place to start looking.
     


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    Never mind - I see where ya were going with that Jamie. I assumed it wasn't based on engine rpm because he said 65mph, not 6500rpm. Good way to double check and prove the point.

    So like I said earlier, pull the 1 screw that holds the cable into the drive mechanism, tie it up and take it for another spin.
     


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