VF500 F2 Rear Wheel Impossible!

Get better soon guy.


Jamie....can I ask what bikes you'll be trying on and what year? Any chance getting it on an 86?

 

I'll be putting it on one of my 84's. All years are the same though. I've had many of them installed on 86's and they fit perfectly (Matt's is an 86, for example).

 

I understand....and if you don't have an 86 to try it on then I can't really complain.

But if it fits your 84 I am still in the same position I was in before....wondering what is different from my bike that it won't fit on properly.

....but we will cross that bridge when we get to it.

 

Check the part fiche and see if they have different numbers on the swingarm.

 

swingarm part no.

http://images.cmsnl.com/img/partslists/swingarmchain-case-vf500f-500-interceptor-1985-us_bighu0197f2e23_1d1b.gif

all years read: OEM#: 52110-KE7-000

 

The brake caliper brackets have different part numbers iirc

 

bracket part no.

I'm reading that they are all the same, do you have other intel?

http://images.cmsnl.com/img/partslists/rear-brake-caliper-vf500f-500-interceptor-1984-us_bighu0197f2e13_6c4f.gif

Part No. 4

'84 43110-MJ6-006
'85 43110-MJ6-006
'86 43110-MJ6-006

 

I think I checked on bike bandit....I don't recall.

 

Anything new??

 

Jamie has very nicely modified the Kit and sent it back to me....he told me he was going to explain in detail what exactly was done and what he found here in this thread when he finds some time.

 

Sorry for the delay in posting my findings, November is always the start of the busy time for me.

My first inspections showed that everything measured correctly. No parts were outside of the specified print tolerances. Since that part checked out ok, I proceeded to investigate the issues that Slowbird was experiencing. I had the three major ones listed as:

1) The bracket was touching the rotor bolts when the wheel rotates
2) The tab on the swingarm was pushing against the bracket and would not allow it to sit straight.
3) The last spacer was difficult to insert between the caliper bracket and the chain adjuster.


I chose to work from the centerline out. To correct item #1 I added 0.5mm to the thickness of the spacer that goes between the wheel bearing and the caliper bracket. Checking the rotor position in relation to the bracket I found it to still be acceptable.

For #2 I was compounded by the addition of the 0.5mm to the above spacer. Adjusting for that plus an additional amount to generate the clearance still provided an acceptable amount of engagement with the tab. Overall the adjustment was 2mm.

#3 was easy, the last spacer was shortened to ensure a slip fit during installation.

AS you can see, the changes were pretty small in magnitude. The adjustment for the swingarm tab was the biggest hitter, and it was probably overkill. The 2mm change is convenient because that is the next shorter length fastener available. I made the same adjustments to the parts on my own bike just to be sure the changes would not have any negative effects. My oldest two kids, who are ages 7 and 4, helped me put everything together. They didn't have any issues getting spacers in place, etc., and anyone with young children will tell you that if they can manage it with minimal instruction anyone should be able to.

As mentioned, I'm going to make these changes permanent to reduce the risk of this happening again. Thanks go out to Slowbird for his patience and help throughout this process!

 

Thanks Jamie for all your help.

I received the kit today and when I get some time I'll head out to where I'm storing the bike and get that wheel fitted :thumbsup:

 

Can I please get a confirmation of what order these spacers need to go in please?

.....because the caliper bracket is still rubbing the rotor

 

the small one goes inbetween the swing arm and the sprocket the meduim one goes between the wheel and caliper bracket and the fat one goes to the outside of the caliper barcket and swing arm

 

Thats the opposite of what Ive been told and what I remember but I will try it that way.

At the moment I have the Medium between the swingarm & sprocket and the small between the Wheel and the caliper bracket

 

That is correct - the thinnest one, which is now 8.5mm, is what goes between the caliper bracket and the wheel. The 10mm thick spacer goes on the far left between the sprocket carrier and the swingarm.

 

Here are some pictures of your parts installed on my bike:







I'm still not sure what's going on, because as you can see above everything fit my bike perfectly.

 

I can make the rotor fit straight like in those pictures....but as soon as I try lining up the notches on the chain adjusters the rotor starts to rub.

The smallest spacer is now 8.5mm? I thought it was 8mm before...?