Lazer exhaust..............

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  1. vfr sam

    vfr sam New Member

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    thank you all for the heads up. I MYSELF WAS ABOUT TO BUY FROM THIS STUPID COMPANY. I WILL TAKE MY MONEY SOME OTHER PLACE!
     


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    If you like the Lazer product buy it...but Not from this company...Like Bwiess said bad service people go else where... can't pay for your new car Dr. Jaun if you don't have any customers
     


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    Pride

    This has really bothered me as I do not have bad things said or implied about me............EVER.I have my pride and it is dear to me. I did not come by it easily.
     


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  4. TOE CUTTER

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    Thank You All For Standing By Me!
     


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  5. Laser Exhausts

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    Hello,

    TOE CUTTER:

    • We can replace your system, all you have to do is send it to us.
    • You may also return the system for a refund...

    What more as a distributor of the Laser Products can we do?

    I am the owner and president of Foster Performance Products; I want to make this right. I also want to have my staff QC this return as we have others in stock and if there is a tolerance problem I need to know.

    Please contact me so we can resolve this issue.

    Thank you,

    Dr. Juan Delgado, MD.
    President.
    Foster Performance Products.
    718.468.4680
    Sales@FosterRAD.com
     


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    Toe cutter, The Doctor is response again and asking for you to return the product for a full refund. Why don't you give him a call and keep us posted what the out come. I am a little affrait to mail out the exhaust and never seen the money again :( Good luck pal and hope the Dr. is keeping his words.
     


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    Look at the bright side Dr. Juan, once your company fails you should be able to have a succesful career in politics LOL !!!! :biggrin:

    Regards,
    Rollin
     


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    You can start by providing better customer service....or start by looking up the definition in the dictionary and then going from there. Tell you what, look up a little company called "Aerostitch" if you want to see real customer service.....or Dennis Kirk, or Chaparral, etc... All of this mess (and LOTS of negative press for you) could have been avoided if your company had simply worked with Toecutter to provide resolution to the issue at hand and not ignored his phonecalls and e-mails and trying to lay the blame on him when he was going above and beyond trying to contact you and resolve this. Now you have let it go past that, and now many others will treat your company as if it has the plague. This is your fault, so don't try playing like you are the innocent victim here. I happen to know this person, and they are very knowledgeable and honest about things like this.

    READ what he is saying. He wants YOU to pay for return shipping. At the very least, you should offer him some kind of discount/reimbursement for all of his inconvenience.

    If you had simply taken his word for it after he e-mailed you numerous pictures showing the issue, and given him a label to return it, he would have been happy, and probably given you some good press for good resolution. However, after doing some internet searching, bad press for your company is extremely easy to find. It is very obvious that you do not care about your customers and resolving the issues that they may come across.

    It is your prerogative to have your company be viewed in a negative way, or make changes and be the good guy, and change things where they are (obviously) lacking. If you do good things, you get good press. Simple as that.
     


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    If you send it back be careful, I worked with a group of attorneys for over 10 years and heard many stories start off just like this.

    Good Luck,
    Parker
     
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    Thanks

    Thanks for the laughs Rollin, I am very much enjoy your comments on this forum. :thumbsup:
     


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    Hello,

    TOE CUTTER:

    I want to resolve this problem, if you do also please check you Email for return label.

    Tracking Number:
    1Z949VY89095298162
    Return Service:
    Electronic Return Label

    This is a great system that is why you purchased it. We do not manufacture them and if there is a problem we need to know about it.

    I ask for your cooperation

    Dr. Juan Delgado, MD.
    President.
    Foster Performance Products.
    718.468.4680
    Sales@FosterRAD.com
     
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    hmmm..send something back that he paid for? Please tell me there is a refund before shipping, or is this shaft going to be further up his rectum?
     


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    Remember guys, the more often the name Foster Rad and Dr Juan Delgado, etc are mentioned, the higher the results go in the search engine database. That way when someone researches the name, they can read about customer experiences. I went to the website and it appears to me that foster Rad makes laser so just based on John's experience, I'd avoid dealing with them no matter the supplier and no matter how nice Laser (Lazer is incorrect spelling I think) exhaust might be.... Here's their return policy taken from their own website:

    Our Return Policy is as follows:
    Returns accepted within 7 days of receipt for credit or refund. You must call 718-468-4680 or email us sales@FosterRAD to explain the reason for return. We will then issue a RTV number so that you can return the item in question. Please note that all return shipments are to be shipped insured for the value of the purchase. All returns will be shipped at the buyers expense and must be in original packaging and in perfect salable condition. A -20% Restocking/Quality Control fee will be applied to your refund or credit issued. It is at our discretion as to whether a credit or refund will be given depending on the circumstances. Used or assembled items do not qualify for return.

    That's a direct quote. Notice the Last line... Now, here's the real catch. You have to receive the item, attempt to install it and contact them within 7 days BUT the last line says that if you assembled the item, you are not qualified for a return. How in the HELL do you know an exhaust system doesn't fit until you friggen assemble it and try to fit your bike. Why else would return it? If it's in the box and untouched then I don't know if it works. What kind of business is this?

    Now, they have a very nice looking website and very nice exhaust systems from what I have seen.

    Here's something I am having a problem with. Some of the e-mails say they do not manufacture the exhaust. But the website laser-exhaust.com is titled FosterRAD Laser Engineering Exhaust Systems. I'm going to continue this message further down after I investigate this website some more.
     


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    Ok, here are some things I have learned:

    1. FosterRAD apparently stands for Foster Research And Development
    2. They are located in Oakland Gardens, NY 11364
    3. They have some nice looking products

    this is quoted from their main page:

    Dr. Robert Foster
    Director
    Foster Research & Development
    Laser Engineering Exhaust Systems


    Now, I'm assuming this is either a nickname "Dr" like Rossi or some such to add legitimacy to Mr Foster. I'm a little confused in the multiple Drs thrown around from these guys. I get a few hits on google for Dr Juan Delgado ranging from a GP to and OB doc in FL not to mention an optometrist even. As you all know, these specialties are very handy in exhaust design. Especially obstetrics...

    Anyway, to continue...

    Is John's issue with FosterRad or the supplier? Or is FosterRAD the supplier. Is Dr Robert a real person and the "GO TO" guy or is Dr Juan?

    I like their website and their products look pretty cool. I have heard that the Laser exhaust systems for scooters are pretty sweet. Their website also lists something called a Power FRK module, DynoStar, and the RapidBike module. These look like legit products. All in all the website seems very polished and professional.

    Okay, here's another quote from the website:

    Please note that all warranty claims are submitted to Laser Engineering the manufacturer. It is their decision as the guarantor, as to what action to take. We assume no liability but will facilitate the claim and make sure that it is resolved quickly to your satisfaction.

    So it seems I am getting closer to figuring this out. FosterRAD is like a business that's into a few different things related to motorcycle performance. They are authorized to sell Laser exhaust and as such they have use to the Laser name in their name? It seems odd that Laser itself wouldn't own the url, though and that this company would. Agreed? Or, does it sound like FosterRad is Laser exhaust, and this warranty statement is a way to say put it off on a non-existant entity. Say for instance how a company can incorporate so that the corporation can be held liable but individuals within said coporation cannot. You follow?

    Is it this convoluted or is it just me?
     


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    This is starting to drive me crazy... Is FosterRAD = Laser ? What is going on. Someone contact Mulder and Scully.

    I'm sure the truth is out there.
     


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    Ok, did some more research. If you search Laser exhaust and leave out FosterRAD you find their worldwide web page and it seems they truly are separate entities. They seem to be located in the Netherlands from what I can tell. So this leads me to believe that John's issues are directly related to FosterRAD and their return policy/customer service issues. Well, I feel better now that I have this all worked out. Please let me know when the issue is fully resolved to mutual satisfaction and I can put this whole dreadful mess behind me. I need a drink.
     


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    Reg, You sure have a lot of free time...hehehe
    Well done James Bond Reg..... :)
    I would let John (Toe cutter) to deal with Dr. Juan for the next few days and see what is the out come. Let take one step at the time.
     


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    Leap of faith

    I got the call tag in my e-mail and will ship it back in a couple of days, after I photogragh every inch of that thing to have proof it is not damaged.I can see the next chapter of this being that it is in some way damaged or has a bug terd on it and I will still be boned.The credit card company told me not to send it back but I think I will. I must ask what assurance I have that this will end here and desputed dropped.I have been accussed of theft,lies and incompetence for nothing more than Foster wanting my money. I do not have a good feeling about this.Am i walking into a trap?
     


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    I've stayed out of this but wanted to voice my opinion on this whole matter...

    1. Toe, you are truly due a refund and/or replacement. Forget all the details, it comes down to the simplest explanation. You bought a defective product, you are due either a refund or at least a new exhaust with a pre-paid return label for the original system.

    2. I WOULD NOT by any means, send the system without first getting a refund or replacement. I've dealt with this before, and just because you send it back and have a tracking number showing that it reached its destination, does NOT mean that they have to give you a refund.

    3. Dr. Deldumbo, this one is for you....As a business owner myself, I would NEVER treat a customer the way that you have. All it takes is that 1 person to have a bad experience, and the next thing you know, you're out of business... 1 person tells 5 people, those 5 tell 5 people, those 25 all tell 5 people, those 125 people...you get the idea. And by the looks of things, as i've done research as well, you haven't screwed just Toe...You seem to make it a practice to screw the better half of your customers, and the word is spreading FAST!

    Give John a refund or send him a new system FIRST, then either way provide the return shipping.

    What do you really have to lose? You're just a middle-man here anyways, so if you receive the defective product, i'm sure the manufacturer will then stand behind their product to you. You'll be out nothing more than the time invested which appears to be far less time than what this man has put into this himself.

    It just dumbfounds me to see the extent of time and effort people will put into screwing someone when all it would take is just to say "I'm sorry, lets make this right".
     


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