Scraping pegs while hanging off?

Some are offended by "the monkey" 02.

Out of respect for those offended, the monkey will be at a track day next year were he is welcome

BZ

 

Thanks for the tips, guys. I think adjusting those things would help reduce the lean angle a bit. There have been times when I hang off more, but I feel like I have less control because I am further to the side of the bike. I'll practice this on the weekend and see how it goes.

What about inside knee positioning? By this I mean, straight out (perpendicular to the bike) or kind of hugging the inside fairing. I think straight out is better because more of the mass is farther from the bike.

By the way, that monkey vid is saddening.

 

Thanks for the video. :thumbsup:

 

+1

Great vid. Rossi is the man!

 

inside knee should be loose, if it hits, great, if not no biggie. Outside knee however should be locked in on the tank and a lever/stabilization point for the body.

 

+1!

Your knee is what should hold you on the bike and you need to rest your upper body on the side of the tank. Outside arm nice and relaxed on the tank too.

If you are hanging full off and the bike feels unstable I'll bet you are trying to hang onto the handlebars. That upsets the bike badly.

Keith Code is right (on alot of levels) but when he harps on the "don't tighten up on the handlebars" survival reaction. There is a reason why. Nothing f's with the bikes line, suspension and turning abilities more than that. betarace and I were talking (he sent me a good article on this issue) and at the track I couldn't figure out why I was running wide in some turns? Reason? I was nice and relaxed turning in, but once I was over and my knee was down I would tense up on the bars. The bike automatically starts to run wide because your arms are not letting the bikes suspension do its job and make its own little adjustments. Its hard to remember that once a bike is set into a turn, the motorcycle only needs the rider to roll on the throttle to keep it going and keep the suspention in the 'sweet spot'.

RELAX!

Repeat that 1000 times; I do:biggrin:

BZ

 

the article(s) in question
Comfort And Stability - Cornering Forum
and
Knuckle To Knee—dragging - Cornering Forum

 

Thanks, guys. Yeah, I need to remember to relax during the turn and get my upper body lower. I appreciate your suggestions.

 

Sup guys. Went riding again today and applied the tips suggested. Yep, hanging off more and getting my head lower reduced the amount of peg scraping. It only happened once today. The only problem I have is with my outside arm. Since I'm tall (6'4"), my outside knee takes up most of the area of the tank, where my arm would go. So, I have to keep my elbow out, a la Ben Speis. This feels good and natural to me. Maybe that's why Ben does it; he's tall from what I remember. As long as I don't use the bars to keep myself up or put too much force on them, I should be ok, right?

 

great its working... wish I had a picture to help but most folks mental image is "I am waaaay off" and really they arent. put the mirror in your ear, thats where you want your head. Stay loose!

 

Here's a photo showing why my arm can't rest on the tank:

 

Upper body down and off more and you can. But if you can stay relaxed in the position you are in, then it may not be an issue.

I'm 6'1" and can rest my arm on the tank (look at my picture gallery).

We'll chat more about this soon.

BZ

 

The look of the front fork and the height of the rear is telling me a story, maybe it's the picture.....

 

Check out this pic of me when I was at the dragon and like Bubba Zanetti I'm 6'1" and you can clearly see my arm just touching the tank:



From looking at your picture, try pushing your butt further back so you're almost lying down on the bike instead of sitting up.

 

What does it tell you?

 

Went out again today and was able to get really low on the inside of the bike. This did create more room for my arm to rest against the tank. Also, no peg scraping.

 

more cowbell. more head off. rest of body will follow. lookin good though~!

 

Que onda Jaime¡¡
creo que el problema es que la moto es bajita y ademàs la suspensiòn es blanda, a mi me ha pasado varias veces y lo compensè endureciendo un poco la precarga en la suspensiòn delantera y la trasera tambien, te recomiendo no acostar tanto la moto pues al arrastrar el posapiè puede levantarse la moto de atràs con un buen arrastròn por el suelo,otra opciòn seria poner un llanta trasera mas alta, tal vez una 180/50/17 que tiene el hombro mas alto y como es de perfil triangular tendrias mayor superfice de contacto y menos riesgo de una caida.
saludos desde Mexico

 

couldnt agree more!