VF500 F2 Rear Wheel Impossible!

I just spent an Hour getting those two spacers swapped and NOW the Rotor is RUBBING the Caliper bracket!!!

WTF!??!? What the hell is wrong with this stupid shit.

I've aligned the chain adjusters...tightened the axle nut and the caliper bracket is still not sitting straight!

But atleast before the bracket wasn't rubbing the ROTOR!

This is f***ing bullshit.

 

Looking through some old posts....looks like I'm having a similar issue as Matt did on his thread Page 4.

Crooked Caliper Bracket....Rotor bolts rubbing.....everything not right.

 

Did you measure the spacers and check to make sure they are not damaged? Where is the caliper bracket rubbing? Is the caliper bracket still crooked?

Once again, these exact same parts were previously installed without any issues. Getting frustrated never helps to solve a problem!

 

No. How should I measure them? Ruler, Measuring Tape or one of them Micrometer things.

The Rotor bolts and the very top edge of the rotor.

Yes....and the rotor sits closer to the bracket now.

Or so we were told.

Please don't take offense to this....but to date nothing has solved my problem.

I am very close to Putting the stock wheel back on and selling all this shit off.

 

A metric ruler is fine. They are made to an even millimeter number, all you need is something that can measure in mm.

That tells me the caliper bracket is sitting crooked still.

You are by far having the most difficult time getting the kit installed. The vast majority of kits that I sell get installed perfectly the first time. A few don't, but it usually just takes a couple of e-mails back and forth (without a bunch of 'public' opinions thrown in, which helps) to get things sorted out. I've never had anyone with this much difficulty. I'm not saying it's you, I'm just pointing out that this is not common at all.

I'll be happy to help you out with that, I get folks asking me for a good deal on used parts all of the time so I'm sure that I would not have any problem finding a use for them. I certainly do not want you to feel 'stuck' with anything. Even though you bought these parts used I'll still stand behind them - I'm that confident that the design is solid and not part of the problem.

Shoot me an e-mail if there is anything else I can do to help.

 

I'll double check the sizes and measurements.

If everything is fine and it still doesn't fit then I'm selling this kit.

I should measure the Caliper Bracket also.....how thick should it be?

...and the other measurements are:

10mm spacer?
8mm spacer?
18mm spacer?

 

See e-mail!

 

Awesome.....I'll get to my detective work.


I really don't want to Put the Stock wheel back on...but my patience is starting to falter.

 

See e-mail!

 

I got it.....thanks Jamie.

 

congrats.............. about time guy. now ride it.

 

you know i was thinking of doing a new hobby like smoking crack? any thoughs :biggrin:


on a real note slow just take a breather step away from the bike leave it alone for a day or two my bike acts like a bitch some times to and i just gotta step away for awhile do the same just dont get upset at it or the people trying to help you, you can make it work its just going to take some work.

 

Congratz? I wish.....it's still not working.

Yea....you're absolutely correct.

 

What is this world coming to where Matt is the voice of reason? We are in a sad state of affairs my friends.....

 

:rofl:not sure how i should take that but i laugh when i read it

 

I measured all spacers and the bracket. All are to spec...though one seems like it may not be universally the same thickness all the way around.

Rotor still sits askew in Caliper Bracket :frown:

 

I didn't think those were the problem. Check the tab on the swingarm to see if it's allowing the bracket get straight or not.

 

Okay.....all done working on the bike today. Here is what I have done and found.

-With the Smallest spacer between the Caliper bracket and the F2 wheel, the rotor rubs the bracket.
It sits VERY close to the bracket and even with the Caliper bracket siting straight (Which it never does) it's just too close.

-With the Smallest spacer between the swingarm and Carrier the Rotor has more clearance in the bracket but it doesn't sit straight so I have no rear brakes. Also....with this setup the Sprockets don't line up, and the rear wheel wobbles

-The tab on the swing arm that accepts the Caliper bracket has been meticulously smoothed out and perfected by myself and a file. The bracket sits straight until you add the wheel and spacers....then everything becomes crooked. (This has always been a problem)

-I am unsure why but the caliper will not sit straight...even if it did...it looks like the rotor would sit far too close to the bracket.

I am in the process of putting the Stock wheel back on.

It looks like this kit will never fit.

If someone has any more ideas on how I can make this fit I am open to suggestions. (As I have been this entire time)

Using a Vernier I measured the spacers and they are all the proper size as Jamie mentioned.....but one doesn't fit snug in the vernier when it's clamped shut. I think it may not be 100%

I will try once more before declaring this Kit a complete failure.

Suggestions please?

 

The kit is just fine, there is nothing wrong with it. I've been making these kits for years. I'm almost certain that it's something with your swingarm tab. I've had one other guy have issues that were exactly like yours and the tab was to blame. It seems that production variances are to blame, but since this still has affected about 1% of the kits I've made I'm struggling to justify a change to the kit - especially since some filing of the casting surfaces is all that it takes to make it work. You have to file the end of the tab, where the casting is still exposed. At least that's what solved the problem last time.

It seems like with the problem identified and only a little more effort needed you are totally giving up. There really isn't anything anyone can do to help you then!

I keep coming back to:
Pat - The exact parts you have and they worked
Matt1986VF500F - Identical parts with no problems
My own bike - Identical parts, fits fine
Dozens of others - Identical parts with no problems

 

First:
I have already told you I have filed and removed any casting issues from the swingarm tab that would effect the bracket.
Is this not enough? How much filing should I be doing?

Second:
The caliper bracket sits straight until you add the spacers and Chain adjuster and tighten everything up. What part of the Swingarm tab should be preventing this from happening when half of the bracket is not touching the tab?

Third:
How is the problem Identified?

You: "File the swingarm tab from the casting imperfections and try again."

Me: "Done....still sits crooked"

Is the tab still the problem?

Fourth:
I have been putting loads of my time, effort and $$ into this conversion that IMO will not pay out if this kit does fit.
No fancy rear wheel is worth what I've had to put up with. I am willing to keep going...but not for much longer. This is becoming completely ridiculous.
...and for you to say that I am "totally giving up" and making it sound like the solution is so easy....well...it's slightly insulting.
This has turned out to be a 20 day conversion with many issues to overcome.

You say the swingarm tab is the problem.
I have told you that I have filed it so it sits snug in the Caliper bracket. It still sits crooked.
The bracket has nothing stopping it from being squeezed out of adjustment with the tab.

I would be grateful if you would advise me on my next course of action.