Lost key, plz help!!

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  1. 03VFR

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    I lost the one and only key to my bike. Ive been looking everywhere for some info but so far no one has been a real help. i dont know where it was originally bought, and the guy i bought it from has no idea. Does anyone know where i can find the key code that wont require removing the ignition for my bike. its an 03 vfr.
     


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    :ninja::eek:Call your local Honda dealer, have the Vin and ownership handy there should be a record for it as the keys are numbered hope this helps .:thumbsup:
     


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    CALL LOCK SMITH, tHEY CAN GET YOU A NEW KEY LESS THEN 1 HOUR
    WITHOUT REMOVING THE INIGTION :) GOOD LUCK
     


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    From the Honda Powersports FAQ page:

    How can I get a replacement key?
    You can order replacement keys through your local Honda dealer. The dealer will need your key code to cut the key. If you do not have the key code we first recommend contacting your original selling dealer since they may have recorded this information at the time of sale. American Honda is unable to provide a key code that corresponds with your VIN. If you are still unable to find your key code please contact you local Honda dealer for further assistance in obtaining a duplicate key.
     


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    Looks like this guy doesn't know where the bike was purchased in the first place and neither does the guy he bought the bike from.

    A Carfax search should show the original seller. The local Honda dealership will want to see all the paperwork that can possibly be dug up. Same deal with a locksmith.

    Some of the ignition locks on some of the VFRs and possibly some other Hondas as well sucked. I lost a key somewhere on the road. Got home started to shut the engine down and Oh Shit, no key! Had a spare in my wallet and one in the house.

    I found the missing key the next time I changed oil.

    For those who want spare keys, Honda stealers get big pesos for blanks. Discount stores rarely have the right blanks. Best bet is find a real locksmiths shop and show up with the all the paperwork or expect them to say no.
     


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    That is what I thought

    NCB, The stealeship around where I live do not have that service:mad::mad:
    I have try serveral place with my tag with no success. If your dealer up there will do it can I give you the code numbers:wink: so you can have them make me couple keys:biggrin:
     


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    Here is how you go about it Long,

    1.) Go online and buy yourself a couple Honda 7P key blanks, they average around $7.00 each.

    2.) Take the key blanks and the master key to any key cutting location and have them cut you a couple new ones.

    3.) test the blanks before you leave the key cutter's and make sure they work.

    4.) Ride
     


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    well then, I guess he fucked himself. with a little due diligence he should have no problem getting a key(s), just has to put some effort into it. This isn't sending a man to the moon........all of the information i have provided, was located by using google, in about 3 minutes.
     


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    NCB I don't think he Fucked himself on purpose.... and maybe he was brought up on AOL and doesn't know how to use anything else...

    ...call a locksmith it'll cost you but you might get two keys outta the deal.

    I had to do that for my truck... 75 dollars to just get it open and another 150 to get the transponder key cut and programmed...

    the newer bike don't have anything like that do they....a transponder chip in them?
     


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    Cost is.........

    There is no chip in the key, Fizz paid $85.00 :crazy: for the new key of his Z1
     


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    Ummm, over here (Australia) we have H.I.S.S (Honda Ignition Security System) on our late 5th Gen's and all 6th Gen's. This is identified by a large black ring around the ignition barrel, with "H.I.S.S." written on it. This can be best seen at the bottom of my avatar image. If you don't have this ring around your ignition barrel, then none of the below applies...!

    If you DO have H.I.S.S, please read on:
    According to the owners and workshop manuals, this system requires at least one of the original keys as shipped with the bike to be used to program the ECU to accept any further keys. The original keys evidently have some form of identifier in the black plastic head of the key that is queried by the ECU at power on. Without the correct coded reply, the bike does not start (have not experienced this first hand BTW). The manuals further state that if all coded keys are lost, the only way to start is to replace the ECU. This is independent of the need to replace the ignition barrel itself

    So I doubt that it is anywhere near as easy as getting a locksmith. However, I am not sure if there may be a way to clear or otherwise reset your existing ECU to accept a new key. My advice would be to go to a Honda dealer, and explain the situation. Don't just hand the bike over, but ask what your options are. I would further suggest that instead of buying one key, buy 3, register them all, and then store one in a safe offsite location, such as at a trusted relatives place.

    Finally, I have uploaded some information on the H.I.S.S. system, which provides all the details you need. The info itself shows a 1999 CBR600F, but the system is exactly the same for a 6th Gen. The info can be found here 1999Hiss.pdf

    Hope this helps somewhat.
     
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    you're right, crusty. what's the point.
     


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    Hi winaje, i hope you are doing well,
    The h.i.s.s. is not very prevalent in the us. i'm sure it is available on some models, but it is not a common thing here.
     


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    Thanks for the info NCB, I have updated my post as a result...

    Going good here too, BTW
     


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    I can't say whether he fucked himself or not. Googling some generalized fix up in three minutes might be different that actually getting a new key when the old key is MIA.

    I'm not sure that a dealership is going to hand over a master key to just anyone who walks in with a lost key story. Maybe if they are pushing the bike it might be sort of credible but somehow...
     


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    Here, i will make it as clear as I can. I DON'T THINK THE DEALER CAN HELP HIM CURRENTLY WITH THE INFORMATION HE POSSESSES, I DO HOWEVER, BELIEVE THE PROBLEM IS EASILY SOLVED IF A LITTLE INGENUITY WAS TO BE APPLIED.
     


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    Guys, if I may make a suggestion; lets wait and see if we get a reply from the OP first, rather than speculate on what he does or does not need or have, such as the required paperwork etc. Then we'd be able to advise him based upon the additional information. This would reduce confusion, and minimise the likelihood of misunderstandings occurring... :target: :flamer: :bolt:
     


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    Do some calling around and find a local or semi local dealer that can cut the keys. Most of them offer it. I lost the key to my 4-wheeler some time ago and they were able to do this for me. I had no master key, no ownership papers, but I did throw the 4-wheeler in the back up the truck and bring it up there. There was a code that was on the ignition barrel that they were able to use to cut the new key from a blank. Find one that does it and you are set. Maybe you will get lucky if you tell them what is going on. They might let you get away with just removing the ignition barrel and bringing that in plus the papers. Maybe they will want the bike on a trailer with you along with the papers.

    Don't just limit your search to the nearest dealer... surely there is more than one within 50 miles of you. I live in the middle of nowhere and there are no less than 4 within 50 miles of me and surely many more that I just don't know or care about. I'm just lucky to have a pretty good one 3.5 miles from my house.

    If all else fails, bite the bullet and call a locksmith. $75 and 2 minutes later... you will have one that works. Talk to him first and find out if they have the blanks on hand or if you need to provide them with one. They often carry blanks for house locks and cage vehicles, but they might not have one for your bike.

    Regarding the HISS.... I can't say that I have EVER seen a bike here in the USA with HISS. We've been screwed on that it seems and my local dealer didn't even know what it was when I asked them about it. Assuming the OP is in the USA, HISS should not be a concern.
     


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    yeah it'll be 120 to get a reputable locksmith out and cut a new one, over 200 to replace ignition and other locks. I just wanted to know if anyone knew the cut code so i can do a lil trial and error myself instead of spending all that money when i could possibly do it, without having to take off the ignition. And i already went to honda, key code not trackable through vin, and yes i am the bikes owner. (for those who implied otherwise)
     


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