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Discussion in 'General VFR Discussions' started by Keager, Sep 29, 2009.

  1. monk69

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    I'm sure with time, you'll be able to sleep again..... Sounds like you may still have a semantics issue.... I was a Life Support Tech in the US Navy, and USAF..... One of the many classes to be rated in that field is to learn about helmets(jet a/c ; full pressure helmets ; O2 delievery to the pilot ; updates on how to eject depending on which seats they're using ; G-suits ; survival gear ; water/jungle/desert/mountain survival training ; parachuting ; surface to air extraction ; etc.

    I feel for you, that you go though life, not just living in disbelief of others. But worrying about it to the point of insulting them........ Which is far removed from just "logging" in your mind what you hear as true or false..... Remind me to never invite you to any parties, or social gatherings...

    I take it you haven't served your country in the armed forces? So are unfamiliar with the detail in which our troops are trained.
     
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    "Life Support Technician" the AFSC being ?? ..and the USN equivalent being ??

    Shoot me some numbers and we can talk semantics later.

    Another area that is still not resolved is whether or not you fixed General Yeager's helmet and being a technician did you really call him Chuck? LOL

    To answer your question about serving my country which BTW you cleverly constructed to sound as if anyone who did not spend time in the military is a chickenshit and a cheap trick too, sure did.
     


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  3. monk69

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    Thx... But you're taking cheap shots at me.... Duuh

    Since you suggest you were in the armed forces.... I'll give you my MOS's off my DD214's.... 1st is the Navy , PR"A" School 7-30/11-16-62 Parachute Rigger Fundamentals ; PO 3&2 ; PR 3&2.....

    USAF....SGT AF-MOS 92250.......

    Guess you'll never know, you could write Chuck, and ask him. I just haven't been able to document my whole life, much less have it notarized......

    No... I never called anyone by their 1st name .... It was either by their last name, or rank.... Or friends, were refered to by their state(or off takes about their state)..... Which I've noticed, since you want me to feed you so much information about myself... That you have nothing to offer us on this fine forum..... City/state/bikes/age/job/ NA'DA'?......... please ! ! !
     


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    I actually just read an article in an older Motorcyclist magazine (March 2006) and it said that the five year age limit of a helmet is just a random number that companies invented for liability reasons and to just keep people buying new helmets every so often. They also said that they tested helmets that were 25 years old and they still met current standards. So unless a helmet has been dropped or has been through a crash, it's probably fine.
     


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  5. monk69

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    I tend to agree with you.... That the life is a "lot" longer ..... and more so with the newer ones.....
     


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    Getting back on track hopefully, we have not yet resolved the alleged repair to General Yeager's lucky helmet understanding that it was not really the one he wore when breaking the sound barrier in 1947. In yet another area could you tell us about those gas prices in England and specifically where (off base) gasoline was being sold using US currency. I'm sure there is a statute of limitation on this, so not to worry.

    That AFSC (Air Force Specialty Code) not MOS (Army) has changed from 922x0 to 122x0. At five level, that falls in the slick sleeve to A1C area, Having a seven level would be more in line with NCO stripes. Consider too that some others who served are aware that in the USAF there are several levels of "Sergeant", E-4 through E-9.

    At last look the General was still alive and kicking. Since your feeling is that he might not have been too "hung up" on details, he may not have remembered the big event in such exquisite detail. Perhaps if the helmet had been repaired he might remember. Do you have his number? I'm sure he would love to talk to you about all manner of social and military experiences and helmets you have tucked away.

    A little more on using the names of States to identify folks. My immediate question would be if there were two persons from the same state did you add a number to the appelation? ie. "Hello there, Texas #3." A really efficient system would have been IMO to use zip codes or telephone prefix codes if there were a whole shitload of Texans with helmets to fix.

    I realize that it must be terribly frustrating to attempt to lay waste to one's arguments utilizing the very cliche' ad hominim device. Times are tough all over. Just so you won't feel left holding the bag, there is one pic of my trusty old VFR in the gallery.

    If you would be so kind as to specify what bearing my number of bikes, where I live, my age and my "job" has to do with anything other than your just being nosy, please list them in order of importance and how you plan to use the information and I shall comply. Sounds to me like you might be profiling when in fact you should be constructing a proper defense of your self proclaimed expertise which has fallen short of the mark. (IMO)
     


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  7. monk69

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    You're really getting boring....
     


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    I'm not sure why this thought just occurred to me, but I'm glad I don't sell helmets for a living. :)
     


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    So do you at least like my bike? So much for meaningful conversations, I guess.

    Santayana said in a now famous axiom:

    "Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it."

    He also said in a non-axiomatic manner:


    History is a pack of lies about events that never happened told by people who were never there."

    There is also some really cool shit about sematics by S.I.Hayakawa that is worth a looksee.
     


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    Monk, remember, do not feed the trolls! Just ignore them until they go away.

    Enjoyed the Yeager story. In '71 he was assigned to advise the Pakistan Air Force so I suspect he was in and out of the UK frequently in his travels. Good piece of trivia. :thumbsup:
     


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    Yep, at Mach 1+ the trip from downtown Karachi to wherever ol Monk was stationed was probably a quick trip.

    Maybe you can help me here. This name thing about calling guys after the states they came from is confusing. The one name that keeps popping up is Virginia. Many of the guys I knew in the service might not like that too much.

    Ol Monk may have been influenced by the Johnny Cash/ Shel Silverstein tune, "A Boy Named Sue" from c. 1969.
     


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