2010 VFR1200 NOT for USA?

Hearing some chatter on various websites that US dealers are starting to see their model lineup info for 2010, AND THE VFR1200 IS NOT LISTED!

There is also some comments about the ST & VFR being 'phased out', not replaced directly (or immediately) by this bike (even stated directly in one of the early interviews with one of Honda's big wigs).

Now, given that the website is European, it was designed by Honda Europe, and the bikes it is likely to eventually replace are all big sellers in Europe (ST, Blackbird, which is ONLY still sold in Europe & VFR), Honda wouldn't make this new model a Europe only model, would they?

My hope here is if that were the case, why would they test in the desert here in the US? One would truly hope that they wouldn't actually bring the prototypes over here to test, then NOT SELL IT HERE...

I may be stuck with the Connie (Kawi Concours 14) afterall... :frown:

 

I saw somewhere that it was going to be 2012, Not sure what website that was though let me go find it

 

If the VFR remains the same for 2010 with the same color option from 2009 that's the last you will see of the 6th gen. If it takes until 2012 to get the new VFR or whatever the hell Honda is going to call it, so be it. Just ride the s**t out of your current bike and enjoy it!

Nothing wrong with that. Great bike with lots of goodies for the price.

 

It's going to be many years before I'm ready for another bike. If Honda decides not to bring the VFR here I've got a newer, better option that will just need slight modifications to add some touring capabilities. *RSV4*

 

I wish it were that easy. While I'm keeping my 2007 RW&B for the duration, my wife is DEMANDING a more comfy ST.

I agree, that's why it's the choice I've made for the true Sport Tourer my wife is looking for. BUT, I would love it if Honda would make a V4 that was competitive with the Connie. I'm not a Kawi fan.

I hear ya on that one! The RSV4 is on my list for the following summer, after I get my wife her ST...

 

they can keep it in Europe for all I care.

 

I would not buy one anyways. Ill move over to the ST with the looks of the new VFR.

 

So, here is my guess on models:

VFR1200F (EDIT: NOT VFR1200R per link below): Replacing the VFR and Blackbird, the one we've seen the spy shots of.
VFR1200T: Touring, replacing the ST / Pan European.
VFR1200X: An adventure GS fighter, replacing the Varadero (below).

I'm also guessing it may get revealed at the Tokyo Motor Show on October 21st (press day), open to public on October 24th... (EDIT: I was right! See link below.)

There will be more to follow:
"First V4s just the 'tip of the iceberg'
The first V4s - the sports-tourer and Pan European/Blackbird-replacement scooped by MCN - are 'just the tip of the iceberg' according to project engineers. Hinting that V4 power will be at the heart of a generation of machines from Honda, MCN's Japanese source revealed the firm is working on a dynasty to overshadow even that of the iconic Fireblade.

"When we first launched the Fireblade in 1992 we had a plan that stretched as far into the future as the 954cc version of 2002. It's the same with the V4s. There are many branches to the family."

 

hopefully they are not trying to pull the same shit that harley did, where they made the xr1200 a europe only model for a year or so, to build up an outrage and demand for the bike, before releasing it in the us...

 

Could be just loads of surplus stock to shift in the US. I was told in Europe that there was no VFR800 production this year because inventories were so high. So even the model I bought a month back was in fact a 2008.

Plus Euro market prices are sky high compared to yours. You guys could probably buy a Ford Focus, one year's insurance for the price of a Euro 'budget' bike like a Bandit. We have 'sales' tax of between 15% and 25%, but that's nowhere near the whole story. So if Honda is only just getting production going, selling it here first makes sense.

Dealer here tells me the VFR12 will cost ... 16,000 Euro, without hard luggage. Er, thanks but no thanks.

 

time will tell.......................

 

Honda UK was giving away the factory luggage with a new VFR last month, iirc.

There are a lot of bikes we never got here in the US that would be nice to have.

CB1300F


CBF1000


CB1000R


CB600F


Transalp 700


Instead we get the Fury and 20 versions of the Shadow and VTX cruisers.

 

I phoned Honda Canada today to ask if the VFR1200 will be coming here as I am in the market for a new bike. They 1st took my number and wanted to phone me back, which they did straight away. I told them that I am ready to buy a new bike and is the VFR coming to Canada, if it is not coming then I will buy the BMW K1300S. He told me to inform my local Honda Powerhouse that I am interested in buying one. Are they gauging the interest in the bike or what.... I would say to everybody is contact Honda and tell them you are looking at the new bike. It might sway them or we could loose it like others mentioned above.

 

who do we call if we do NOT want the new VFR, but a RVF-RR V4 Aprilia eater/

 

got my 2010 line up no new interceptor sorry guys

 

awesome! RSV4 in white please!

 

I think we'll have to wait until it's officially released to find out for sure; however, I have read in several articles lately it IS planned for the US and Canadian markets for 2010.

 

Well, according to this: Honda Worldwide | September 30, 2009 "Honda Announces Overview of Display for the 41st Tokyo Motor Show 2009"
I was spot on, back on the 16th (above), with my premonition as to when the new VFR would be revealed to the world; however I was off on the model; as according to this the first model will be a VFR1200F, NOT VFR1200R.

Oh well, guess I'm not Nostradamus after all... Well, at least we've only got like 3 weeks before we'll get pics and press releases and such.

 

We can only dream betarace...

BZ

 

Honda Confirms V4 Sport Bike Project is Underway

So, back in 2009 I told everyone the V4 was going to be the heart of a new line of bikes from Honda; I also posted on several threads that everyone screaming about not getting a "real" V4 sport bike with the F model, just needed to hang on to their horses, it'd be coming along in a couple years... Perhaps I am Nostradamus after all...


Honda CEO Confirms V4 Sport Bike Project is Underway
09/20/2012 @ 10:41 pm, by Jensen Beeler

It has been a long time coming with this announcement, but Honda has finally officially announced that work has begun on what is presumed to be a V4 sport bike. In the same vein as the Honda RC30 that was introduced back in 1987, Honda has apparently seen the light, and according to the company’s own words, the company has started “with a goal to create a new history.”

Announcing the new model in his end-of-the-fiscal year speech, Honda CEO Takanobu Ito was terse with his words in describing the new Honda sport bike, but referencing the RC30 project, along with heavy rumors that we have been hearing about a V4 street bike project in the works that was being based of Honda’s MotoGP program — this almost assures that the bike referenced is a V4 superbike based loosely on the RC213V race bike.

With the Honda CBR1000RR looking very long in the tooth, it is not clear if Honda’s V4 project is a replacement for the current-model CBR, or if it is a separate model that will be positioned to be more costly and exclusive than the inline-four CBR (we would expect the latter).

The news comes as an interesting pairing with the fact that Honda plans on offering a production-prototype for MotoGP competition. That model is expected to be a tuned-down version of the Honda RC213V race bike, and the model announced today is allegedly an even more tuned-down version of that machine.

One thing is for sure, if Honda can truly channel the mojo the company produced with the Honda RC30, the company could finally tap into the hearts and minds of sport bike enthusiasts with something more than bulletproof manufacturing.

It wouldn’t surprise us to see a concept of the V4 sport bike unveiled at INTERMOT or EICMA later this year. Expect to see the machine in 2013 or 2014.



Honda to Produce MotoGP-Derived V4 Superbike
21/09/2012 | By: Dennis Chung
Honda Chief Executive Officer Takanobu Ito announced plans to produce a new super sports bike derived from its RC213V MotoGP race bike.

A V4 Honda sportsbike has long been rumored to be in development but it finally appears the project is getting the green light. Speaking about Honda’s plans for the next five years, Ito confirmed the sportbike is on its way, using technology from the company’s successful MotoGP program.

“Since its market introduction in 1987, the RC30 (VFR750R) super sports bike has been loved by a large number of fans,” says Ito. “With a goal to create a new history, passionate Honda engineers have gotten together and have begun development of a new super sports bike to which new technologies from MotoGP machines will be applied.”

Ito did not go into specifics about the new sportbike or what it may mean for the venerable CBR1000RR. The new sportbike will most assuredly use a V4 engine however. The Honda RC213V MotoGP prototype uses a V4, and it’s no coincidence Ito referenced the RC30 which is powered by a 748cc V4 engine. Honda has recently begun introducing new V4 production models such as the VFR1200F and the Crossrunner, but the new model is likely to be a literbike.

Honda has also previously announced plans to develop a lower-spec version of the RC213V to be sold to prospective race teams. This production racer and the newly announced production model will likely share a lot of the same DNA as well.

Ito did not provide a timeline for when the new sportbike will enter production but Honda will likely show some form of a prototype at the upcoming Intermot show in Cologne, Germany, or the EICMA show in Milan, Italy, in November.



Honda to produce supersport bike based on MotoGP RC213V
Honda CEO announces development underway for a “new super sports bike” that harkens back to the RC30
September 21, 2012
As part of his annual corporate fiscal year-end speech to Honda shareholders, Honda CEO Takanobu Ito inserted a little tidbit at the end of his discussion on what Honda plans for the motorcycle market that has set Big Red fans atwitter with glee. After talking about the future introduction of larger-displacement bikes based on the same “New Concept” design of the NC700X and the return of Honda’s racing involvement in the Dakar Rally, Ito made a brief remark about something that Honda hasn’t done since the headier sportbike days of the mid-90s limited production RC45:

“Since its market introduction in 1987, the RC30 super sports bike has been loved by a large number of fans,” said Ito, as two visual displays on the wall behind him featured a photo of the RC30 next to a shot of the RC213V MotoGP racebike. “With a goal to create a new history, passionate Honda engineers have gotten together and have begun development of a new super sports bike to which new technologies from MotoGP machines will be applied.”

And that was it. He then quickly segued into a discussion on Honda’s power generation business, but those two sentences had Japanese motojournalists quickly breaking out their smartphones and furiously texting away.

There had been past rumors of Honda developing a V4 sportbike based on the company’s RC211V/212V MotoGP bikes, but most had dismissed those as the byproduct of wild and hopeful imaginations. And when nothing appeared on the horizon when each new-year models were introduced, those hopes continued to fade.

But now that HRC has openly discussed producing a “production” version of the prototype RC213V as an alternative to the controversial CRT machines now populating the back half of the MotoGP field, the door is supposedly open for the company to produce a high-dollar, limited production variant of that bike in an even more detuned form to enable it to pass emissions and noise regulations for the street. Just as the RC30, RC45, and the V-twin RC51 existed solely for the purpose of racing homologation yet offered a glimpse into Honda’s formidable engineering prowess, this machine will most likely be a very expensive ($30K-plus) and exclusive corporate flagship. It’s highly probable that this new supersport bike will not be a replacement for the aging but still capable CBR1000RR, which still has the production-friendly components and construction to make it somewhere near profitable to produce.

Whether this new supersport bike will be anywhere near the performer among its peers that the RC30 was—much less be an RC213V replica as many are claiming—remains to be seen. Honda is a much different company now than it was when founder Soichiro Honda was still alive. But surprises can happen.