26 Bike Pile-up

You pretty much nailed it brother.

We have some Pagans in Delaware and the formations they ride in and the 'no gear' they wear makes for exactly what happened to these other 1% ters.

Its important to look cool.

BZ

 

They were in Oregon, they had to be wearing helmets. Guess safety in numbers doesn't always work.

 

No wonder my CW song "Drafting Winnebagos" never hit the top ten.

Part of the reason that tandem riding is so popular with "clubs" is that the LEOs still do it and every so often one of them buys the farm.

Historical perspective: All that tandem shit got started when LEOs used nothing but HDs and Indians and there were no radios. This was also "military" style.

Ya know what ? The LEOs still do it. Not too smart.

 

The sample videos of this club's group-riding show upwards of perhaps 100 or more motorcycles in a continuous and unbroken caravan, most riding tandem rather than in a staggered formation while also maintaining a clear distance ahead and from side-to side. I mean come on, those videos show a bunched-up group of motorcycles looking like a mile-long snake that's hogging and commandeering the road!

And as many other respondents here have pointed out, most of these "Brothers" appear to be wearing little in the way of full-protective gear, including wearing nothing more than doo-rags or brain-buckets rather than real helmets.

As I recall, the Motorcycle Safety Foundation teaches that it's very unwise and unsafe for large groups of riders to attempt to ride in a very long, continuous and unbroken caravan. Instead, any huge group of riders should be subdivided into smaller groups, perhaps 10 to a subgroup, each with a front leader and a rear guard. Also, before the ride, everyone should know the agreed upon route and planned stop-off points, and if any subgroups get separated due to intercurrent traffic, etc., each group should know to 'ride their own ride' in order for everyone to eventually arrive safely.

If these "Brothers" have a habit of tailgating or otherwise tending to intimidate cagers, I wonder if the SUV in question got pissed off and decided to "brake-check" the bikes behind him/her. Obviously, "brake-checking" is a very dangerous form of road-rage, particularly when trying to send a hostile message to tailgating motorcyclists, which like cagers shouldn't be tailgating in the first place.

I leave plenty of distance between me and any vehicles in front of me. I don't loiter in, nor do I block faster traffic by going slow in passing lanes, and I always yield to cagers because they're a lot bigger than me and my motorcycle, and in a conflict they will most often win.

I feel sorry for those who were injured or killed in this mishap, but stupid kills.

 

Sounds like a bunch of somewhat lame Harley guys who barely know how to ride their bikes. Stack on that over weighted bikes with lousy brakes that do not steer well. If you run into someone in front of you its your fault. Does not matter why the person stopped. Drinking maybe? Would not have to of course. Ok. They are fellow bikers. Thats sucks!

 

You are more than likely right...WTF are people thinking, what do they think is going to happen in this scenario...Even worse is that this looks like a harley group that I bet was wearing minimal gear more than likekly not even helmets. SAD

 

you gotta remember that in the early hours of a story like this information changes very quickly
I didn't see any time stamp on the video to compare the times of the reports.

 

Hmm, 26 bikes, one crash, into and over each other; you think maybe, just maybe, they were riding abreast instead of staggered, and that just maybe they were too close together???

 

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I should stay out of this but.........I'm a glutton for punishment.

Now I dont know any of these guys that were involved in the incident, for all I know the SUV driver may have been part of some kind of payback on these dudes, that kind of thing does happen. I cannot for the life of me imagine a soccer mom or dad with the gonads to fuck with a biker gang, so maybe it was something ran out in the road and caused them to slam on the brakes. I have known some 1%ers, and you guys cannot be serious with your surprise at no safety gear, riding in packs and so on and so on rants. Come on, why do you think they are 1%ers and call themselves that? Cause they dont give a fuck. Now you can hate on them all you like, and I'm not defending their chosen lunacy, but it should NOT surprise anyone when they get into shit like this.....I mean if you told me "Hey the local outlaw gangs just got busted for meth" would you expect me to say "NOOO WAY" Heeheee........ I am sure if you were to attempt to school them in the proper safety protocols and the pro
per gear for riding you would not come away happy, if you came away at all. Geez, do you think they may have been higher than monkeys on this ride too? What a big surprise that would be .....

They all more or less live by the sword, if they are what they appear to be, again, I'm not familiar with that particular group, and they dont give a fuck about anything much.

You cant save everybody, they dont want to be saved.

If youre looking to shake your head and go "Tsk tsk" save your breath for someone that might listen.

You may not like them or agree with anything about them, but I for one am glad that I still live in a place where such nutjobs can still roam, and as much as it pains me to do so, defend their right to be idiots.

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I agree :thumbsup:

 

I wonder if E3niner has ever thought of running for office?

 

I'm not sure I understand your question, or more importantly, what you mean by your question; but no to answer your question, I have never seriously thought of running for office. While I have considered it, from time to time, for local seats, frankly I'm not politically correct enough and don't deal well with 'politics' at work or everyday life, to make it my actual job.

 

Dammit BadBilly, I deleted that rant about 2 minutes after I wrote it, figuring why bother and who gives a rat's ass about my opinion anyway. Not to mention I really didnt feel like defending it....its just the way I feel. Now I see you found it on your phone or something and put it up there anyway......HAAHAAAHAAAAHAAAA

Now everyone will think I condone being a 1%er. I think anyone that knows any of them knows they dont want or need anyone to defend them and could care less if you like them or not, which I guess was my whole point.

heeeheeheeeeheee

Well, lets just say its not the lifestyle for me.

As far as anyone running for office, rest assured my original rant was not some kind of political screed, just an observation. From soccer thugs to Somali pirates to biker gangs, the world is a big scary place full of nutjobs that arent interested in listening to reason.

Thankfully, there is much to counter this in our world as well, and the thugs of the world in general reap what they sow........

I'll go ahead and not delete this one

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And thanks for the Nomex link

 

If the SUV hammered on the brakes for no reason then there is no excuse. This is negligence in one of the worst ways. But. There is no way in hell that a cage, let alone an SUV, will stop in anywhere near as short a distance as any bike in reasonable condition. These freekin ashats were probably trying to intimidate someone much like what was apparent in the video link posted by Joey_dude. Well guess what. Looks like they did this to the wrong person.

The average person takes anywhere from 1/2 to 1 1/2 seconds to see something, register in their brains they saw something, and begin to take action as a result. Do the math. They did not say how fast (or I did not hear it) the group was going. So if they were doing 60 MPH, and someone braked in front of them, then they have travelled anywhere from 44 feet to 132 feet along that highway after the SUV has braked before the message has been computed by their brain. Now they have to react. This is the reason for the two second rule.

I feel for the families of those hurt. I feel for the innocent people who saw what I am sure was one hell of a sight. I feel for those bikers who realized what they "may" have been doing was wrong. I don't feel for those bikers who continue to behave in this manner. And I do not feel for that asshole driving the SUV if he/she gets caught, if in fact the braking was a deliberate move to harm the bikers.

Who found Clyde? I haven't seen my brother Clyde since ma threw him out of the house.

 

Given enough time, (computer time) someone will eventually attribute the mishap to incorrect tire pressures, cosmic rays or a combination of the two with a complete bibleography, footnoting, an explanation of the mixed gas law and how to make a cosmic ray protection device from Reynolds wrap, hopefully in the style of "Hunter" so as not to bore us into blissful sleep.

Not my style either. I do wonder of the total, how many of the "lifestyle" types were or are dentists who saw too many Peter Fonda movies?

The political swipe was not in your direction. More pointed toward those with the ability to change direction and focus without any application of the laws of physics..

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Can I use your "sow" pun in my next Harley joke? TIA..

 

"Scotty, there seems to be intelligence in this thread; don't beam Spock and I up just yet"

 

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Volo ut syntaxis mea splendescat in litore, veniente aestate.

COGITO ERGO ZOOM!

 

Why sure, feel free, puns should be shared whenever possible

As stated, I am not familiar with that particular group, and dont really have any interest in knowing more about them. And I have been around both types of "bikers" , those that are relatively harmless and have a club and ride around with each other enjoying life, and those that can do five years in state prison standing on their head. I have always found it fascinating that anyone would feel the need to belong to any of these gangs, and of course the source material for anyone out there interested in the reasons people become "joiners" is almost endless, and the opinions on those reasons can be somewhat diverse but generally come back to the same few. I wont bore everyone with what they are, most people with a penchant for looking further into it have done so already, from social scientists to Hunter Thompson.

The surge of interest in motorcyles, particularly Harleys, in the last decade or so is also fascinating, and the good people that run Harley are not fools, particularly those in marketing. Every time Harley attempts to bring their products up to date technically their fanbase rejects it. So what are they to do? Make slooooow refinements to what they make, and build the technically updated bikes in small numbers to a tiny niche in their market.

I am far from the first person to comment on any of the above facts

However, now we seem to be nearing the end of the Harley craze. The real 1%ers out there hate on the rubbies like everyone else does, and they will continue to behave badly and do whatever the hell they want until they come up against law enforcement. Through the whole thing they never gave up on Harley, although some of them wont ride anything newer than a Shovel.

The dichotomies of how large segments of our society acts is a source of never ending amusment to me. "Everyone wants to do the crime but no one wants to go to jail' kind of like "Everyone wants to go to heaven but nobody want to die" So people dress up and act like bikers, big deal. I say let them have their fun. Hell the insufferable little douche and his WASPy little wife next door to me do it. I wont say a word. Have your fun.

As to your comment on Reynolds wrap, I have repeated offered anyone in VFRW one of my foil hats........keeps the givment from reading your thoughts, and we should all be lining the insides of our helmets with foil, they know we ride and may try to get to us that way.

Bottom line Badbilly: none of us should be riding motorcycles, theyre dangerous, overpowered for the most part, and all that safety stuff we wear wont keep the bikes from killing us if thats what is destined to happen. So why are we still doing it? Hell if I know, but I will certainly fight you to keep doing it. So maybe the outlaw biker gang is the extrapolation of that feeling I have taken to its absurd level............

I suspect that feeling I described may be what Echo was agreeing with.

 

I suppose this means that being a dentist is not a lifestyle.

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In my little corner of this oblate spheriod, it's Harley country. Yep, some really good guys, some bad actors and some near room temp IQ types that believe every word somebody reads them from thier favorite HD comic book.

Two good friends and my main wrench are what ya might call good guys who are Harley Doods. The prez of my MC is a HD sales manager, another is author Greg Field with 4-5 books on the subject and who BTW, rides a Moto-Guzzi..and my wrench Pat who is a lone wolf and also a certified MS Systems Analyst.

I agree the latest bubble on HD has burst and the Japanese parts on the newer bikes keep on a-keepin on. Anybody that get the idea that HD at the top is not a very savvy bunch, is in for some large surprises.

Come to think of it, I wouldn't mine one little bit havin one a them harleys that looks just like on a them Eyetalyun bikes with the funny name.

Pace!

 

Are you related to Horace Strome in Campbell River BC?. He has his whole house lined with tin foil. He also officially lodged a public complaint against the RCMP for implanting a listening device in the fillings of his teeth.

And this, my friends, is a true story and not my sometimes colourful imagination either.