Know they enemy

It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.

Sun Tzu - The Art Of War


The Police Interceptor is equipped with an external oil-to-coolant heat exchanger to reduce engine oil temperatures, allowing the vehicles to idle for extended lengths of time without overheating. The engine oil coolers are notorious for seeping oil from the O-ring seals after extensive use[citation needed].

The Police Interceptor engine calibration comprises a slightly higher idle speed (by approximately 40 rpm) and minor changes in the emissions settings. The computer is tuned for more aggressive transmission shift points, and the transmission itself is built for firmer and harder shifts.

The 2006–present Police Interceptors equipped with a 3.55:1 rear axle ratio from the factory are electronically limited to 120 mph (193 km/h) due to the lower driveline-critical vehicle speed, while the Police Interceptors equipped with a 3.27:1 rear axle ratio have generally been limited to approximately 135 mph (217 km/h). This compares to 110 mph (177 km/h) for the "civilian" model.[2]
Ford used an aluminum metal matrix composite driveshaft for the 1993–2005 Police Interceptors as a measure to allow safe operation at over 150 mph (241 km/h), but it was more expensive than the regular aluminum driveshafts. Ford reintroduced the 3.55:1 rear axle ratio in the 2006 model year Police Interceptors, and set the speed limiter at 120 mph (193 km/h) to reduce the risk of driveline failure.

Police Interceptors also have a reinforced frame and body mounts, an aluminum drive shaft (aluminum metal matrix composite for the 1999–early 2001 model years), and an optional limited slip rear differential.

 

Hate to break it to you, but those numbers are inaccurate. Keep searching. And what? No love for the Charger Hemi? You may not be as happy with what it can do.

 

I have been undefeated in pursuit my entire life. Once in a Honda Prelude of all things, though it was a short run.

I asked a local here lately and he said he had had his Crown Vic to 130 MPH. Question is, how long it takes them to reach 130?

 

What goes around, comes around.


There are so many considerations that govern actions by police in a pursuit which may have allowed you your "undefeated" status. It has nothing to do with the cars they drive or the perp's car.

 

I am by no means a fan of traffic officers. In fact, I think traffic officers are one step above drug dealers in how much they offend me. I have zero problem with police that actually do something other than generate revenue. That, of course, is another arguement for another time. As much as I hate traffic police, just about the single dumbest thing a person on a motorcycle can do is to run from the pursuing officer.

Anyway, it sounds to me like you have either a death-wish or you is just plain dum & ignint. :crazy:


Have a nice day.

KC-10 FE out...
lane: :usa2:

 

Constant Gardening

I'M no longer an active rider. I have logged less than fifteen miles this year. I like to think of my bike as an emergency vehicle, like an FA-22 Raptor, that siits in it's hanger and recieves regular maintenance and a very rare check flight.


In the event of an actual emergency that required a speedy flight from my base, I AM confident in my ability to escape and evade. In case of emergency, I have a practiced scramble drill to be out the door, dressed and gloved and on the hard road in under four minutes.

When I was younger, I honed my skills and didn't get myself or anyone killed. The only thing that was hurt was some cop's egos.

I have no plans whatsoever to engage. However I'M always on alert. If I were a fighter pilot I would want to know everything there was about the MiG35 and the tactics of the air crews that pilot them.







Peace thru superior firepower.

 

I must have missed something (I often do). Evade what? On alert for what?

 

When I began my quest for escape and evasion was in 1984 aboard a Kawasaki GPZ 900 Ninja. In those days they would run you till the wheels fell off regardless of anything.


Sometime in the late 80s (I read somewhere) they slacked up a bit and would only really give you the business of a full blown chase if they believed you guilty of a felony offense to begin with. I never stuck around to ask them about it.

I know for a fact the Kawi police bike isn't capable of 150+ MPH pursuit. Keep in mind I do not advocate high speed hijinkx these days, but back in the day all I needed was 36 inches of clear asphalt anywhere it was laid to make good my escape. Once commited to a run, I would push the button and engage in 10/10ths riding. This was mostly in Western States where very large expanses of roadway were present.

I don't have any plans to zap anyone these days. However I like to know what the boys in blue could do if they wanted to.

Speed is the essence of war. Take advantage of the enemy's unpreparedness; travel by unexpected routes and strike him where he has taken no precautions. "Sun Tzu

 

Evade high speed pursuit.

On alert for any situation that required immediate evacuation of essential command personnel (me).

 

Ok, you want to know, here it is. It's no big secret, anyone that wants to know the exact numbers can easily find them on the internet.

Crown Vic top speed is 130mph. It's computer limited there. No drop in power or anything, it just won't go faster. I've had my crown vic at 130 many many times, it handles like a dream at that speed. Even at 130 my tach is only sitting at around 4K rpm, so it will run at 130 all day. The recent crown vics are designed a little backwards, their slow off the line, but when it reaches around 50mph it's like someone lit a fire under it's ass and it takes off. Reaching 130 after that really doesn't take long. Just a little over one mile from standing start.

Chevy Impala, Their a little quicker than the CV, and have a top speed of 140 mph.

Dodge Charger Hemi, don't bother, their wicked fast. 0 to 100 in 14 seconds. 120mph in less than a half a mile, and a top speed of 149mph. Here is a tip, ever want to know if a Charger is a police package or just an off the lot? Look at where the shifter is, ONLY the police package comes with a stick shift by the steering column.

The sleeper? The Chevy Tahoe police package. 120 mph in less than a mile and a top speed of 133 mph. I'm not sure I would want to drive one that fast though.

But with all this in mind, the speed of the car doesn't matter when the radio moves at the speed of light.

I had a stolen corvette Z06 run from me, oh sure, it smoked me off the line and left me in the dust. But it didn't do any good, there were cars waiting down the road as soon as I called out the pursuit. He was caught, the vette recovered, and he went back to prison.

Nothing will ever change though, people will always run, cops will always (if allowed by policy and other factors) chase, and people will continue to die because of the stupidity of the person who feels the need to run.

 

Interesting numbers there VFRSTAR thanks. Like I said I have no plans to flip the switch on anyone, I just wondered "what if."

You don't reach middle age by being too crazy.

Have you ever engaged a bike in your career as a policeman?

 

Well, since this thread is way more interesting than what we usually see here, and actually got responded to by cops, I guess I can waive remarks concerning how futile and nutty it seems to run from the law.

So lets say you need, for whatever crazy reason, to run from the PO-lice. Seriously. If you are somewhere out on the open road speed wont help you much, unless you know the area very, very intimately and have a route preplanned, and you get a really significant jump on the pursuer. Then you need a place to hide the bike , preferably after a very short run, and you must be able to stay there for a significant length of time, since the cops can muster all kinds of manpower and equipment and basically fart around all day looking for you. Remember, your chosen hiding place must be reasonably isolated too, since the cops can easily start asking people in the area if they have recently seen a bike go screaming by and then pull into a garage somewhere.

I suspect that you have been sucessfull in evading up to this point because some combination of events similar to the above mentioned worked in your favor, combined with the fact that the cops really weren't all that interested in catching you, for whatever reason, maybe they got called away to something more important. Possibly the pursuit rules in the areas were such that hammering away after you was deemed more dangerous than letting you go. If thats what youre banking on, I wouldnt count on it every time.

You say you've practiced being able to get away really quickly. Ummmm....ok bro, dont know why anyone would need to do that and then tell everyone on a public forum that they're doing it, but, hey what do I know. If I were hiding out and flying under the radar and all that shit, I wouldnt be on the interwebz at all.

It has been interesting to read the performance numbers on police interceptors though, thanks for that.

I am curious what the old CHP Mustangs and Camaros were like, and we have some Camaros and Chargers around here.

 

you cant outrun a radio only outsmart it. and well if any of those 5.0's throw out a spike strip where you are comming instead of being caught and paying money you will be dead most likely.

 

No one has mentioned helicopters yet.

 

I'll answer that one yes and it ended badly for the motorcycle rider..he downshifted punched it and lost control...hit a street sign and lost his leg at the knee... crappy part was i was gonna stop him and give him a warning for no reflector vest...

the next one I got close enough to get his plate number then he cranked out about 125 mph I broke off pursuit after chasing him 12 miles. I waited a few hours then arrested him in his room where he lived....

 

I'll mention the CHP airplane...sneaky bastages :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

 

where did you get the picture of the car? did you take it?

 

So you arrested him with no other proof than his licesne plate number and that held up in court? Somehow i doubt that guy had a good lawyer. It could have been anyone under the helmet. Or hell you could have just seen a random plate and jotted down the number, ran it and hauled him in for anything.

 

Or a bullet...

 

your only real chance of getting away is in the first few minutes of the chase. u have to get away and hide. cuz as some other members said. once the call goes out, they are all looking for you. and there is a really good chance that the first cop got ur plate.

so if you go screaming by a cop, you only have 1-2 moves to loose him. after that its just a matter of time before you loose it.