Lookig for source for Japanese,Timken or other Hi Qual Tappered STEERING Head Bearings

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  1. captb

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    Anyione have a source for quality tappered steering head bearings, looking for Timken, Nacchi, NTN, SKF or other quality bearings rather than the chinese all balls.
     


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    Smart man !!:thumbsup:....avoiding Chinese junk on your bike

    Contact your local commercial/industrial bearing supply companies.

    Just give them the stock bearing numbers or take the old bearings in.
     
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    I found these crossovers below.
    But there seems to be a conflict one MC site said size was 26x47x15 and bearings numbers are showing 25x47x15 I'll have verify the 25MM ID

    Brand Name: Nachi (Same as stock installed Honda pieces).
    Bearing code I.D. # E32005JS/26 (secondary code on box 060315) Bearing and race -Upper

    The /26 is a SPECIAL BORE SIZE!!!!!!!!! 26x47x15 is correct UPPER for my VFR700 and CBR1100 and many others.

    Bore Diameter 25mm Outside Diameter 47mm Thickness 15mm tapered roller bearing THESE WON"T WORK without a /26 and probably not availible
    FAG 32005X
    KOYO 32005JR
    NACHI E32005J
    NSK HR 32005 XJ
    NTN ET-32005X
    SKF 32005 X
    SNR 32005VC12
    STEYR 32005X ZKL

    Bore Diameter 30mm Outside Diameter 55mm Thickness 17mm tapered roller bearing
    FAG 32006X
    KOYO 32006JR
    NACHI E32006J
    NSK HR 32006 XJ
    NTN ET-32006X
    SKF 32006 X
    SNR 32006VC12
    STEYR 32006X
    TIMKEN 32006X
    ZKL 32006X
     
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    Just do the Alls Balls kit and get over the fact of peoples false ideas that they sell inferior bearings. All hype and fear and no proof! I have them in my head and wheel bearings and ride it harder than any of the conspiracy theorist here!
     


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    I dought All Balls are bad bearings but if I can buy Timkens or German Bearings for the same money I'd rather run them. I know Cheng Shins are good tires but I run Michelins anyhow.
     


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    +1 on all balls...
     


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    why not just go all out and go with some quality ceramic bearings? More accurate than steel, smoother than steel, harder than steel, and should last significantly longer than steel.
     


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    @ 10x the cost? would rather spend extra on a spare R/R
     


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    I don't think the price difference is that much, maybe 2 -3 times last I looked. But they do last much longer, so you won't have to do the work again so soon.
     


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    I just got the Timken Bearings... $52 for both, Allballs would have been $40 and since I keep bikes forever it's worth it to me not to have to do this job again for a long time.
     


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    I got 2 sets of All Balls for $54.oo shipped. Any proof they dont last as long I would love to see some facts.
     


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    Just go to any bearing supply house.
    No problem. Pay a fraction of dealership prices.
    BTW All bearings are sold in grades 1-10 You can get better bearing so just ask for grade 10 bearings. The bearings in printing equipment are even better quality than in a jet engine.
     


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    You have to fit the bearing for the intended purpose.
    A ceramic bearing does not come with an oil seal most of the time.
    You need to check the specifications and intended use.
     


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    FYI - All bearings are made in China now. So, regardless of brand that's where they are coming from. The quality coming from our Communist neighbors across the Pacific varies widely, so your concerns are valid. The All Balls bearings are perfectly acceptable quality, I've had no issues over the years with them.
     


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    My Timkens say France on them. I'm not trying to debate what's best, I just want to use the parts I have had exceptional reliability with in the past.

    Here's a quote from a China Bearing industry sales engineer about their bearings... from a site on the net.

    (I am from the city Wafangdian which is called the beairng capital of China. ZWZ is in our city, there are nearly 700 small or big bearing factories in our city, maybe that is incredible for you, but it is true. I work as a sales engineer nearly 3 years for a company here, according to my experience, the main drawback of chinese bearing is innovation, our company never pay attention to the technical development, just follow the SKF or FAG , if the customer send to the drawing to us , we can produce it ,but never know how to study the advanced product. As to the quality , i think it is very hard to solve the problem , from the raw material, take GCr15(100Cr6,SUJ2,52100) for example, the quality of steel cannot be equal with the developed country , how to gurantee the beairg life can compare with SKF and FAG , that is impossible , what's more , the machine , we use the old grinding machine , heat treatment equipment, that is very difficult to produce the high precision bearing. also the management , i got one complaint from customer , since the scratch on the raceway of bearing , it is caused when the labor assemle the roller through the slot, this can be avioded if the worker is careful. anyway , the china bearing still has a long way to go. The advantage of ours now is just the price,SKF and FAG is 7-10 times expensive than us , if the end customer can accept the shorter bearing life , that is ok.

    Wafangdian China ,Joe
     

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    The use of a ceramic bearing isn't necessary. Due to the application, it isn't really prudent to use a ceramic bearing. Save your ceramic bearing money for wheel bearings, and bearings used in rotating masses that operate at high rpm's, and also where a reduction in drag is beneficial. Of course, if you roll blunts with hundred dollar bills, go right ahead. :biggrin:
     


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    is there a listing for the dust seal ?

    this is what i found.
    1x Top Bearing Koyo SAC2647-1
    Top Bearing - 4706 - Taper Bearing I.D 26mm x O.D 47mm x Thickness 15mm

    1x Bottom Bearing Koyo 32006JR
    Bottom Bearing - 5505 - Taper Bearing I.D 30mm x O.D 55mm x Thickness 17mm
    is what i am reading.

    your koyo numbers say this. im checking it
    KOYO 32005JR
    KOYO 32006JR


    anyone have the koyo # on the front?
    im reading koyo 6204

    28x47x7
     


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    The Alllballs chinese will more than meet or exceed specifications and the demands of your motorcycling applications.
    If you want to spend more on Timken or SKF, by all means do so but that is all you are doing- spending more.
     


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    Koyo now owns Timken, sells bearings to SKF, and has production bearing plants in the US. Timken has US plants also. I think quality is the reason that people trust others over China. Koyo bearings also go in Toyotas which on the norm, have high quality standards. Im not talking bad about China in any way. I was just trying to get part numbers for me.
     


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    Can someone please verify if the correct front wheel bearings for a 5th Gen VFR is 6204 (20mm I.D., 47mm O.D. and 14mm width)
     
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