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Magnetic tankbag = ruined electronics?!!!!!!

Discussion in 'Gear & Accessories' started by RedMenace, May 1, 2009.

  1. RedMenace

    RedMenace New Member

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    Help!
    Just bought a Cortech Mini bag. First trip. Put my Zumo 550 GPS and a cellphone into the bag. Both came out and are dead. Don't turn on. No power.
    Are they ruined? Can I reprogram them? Didn't realize the magnets were that strong and I feel dumb.:mad:
    Anybody been through this?
     


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    I have had several things in my magnetic bag without problems.
     


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    I carry my cell in my magneitc tank bag all the time.....no problem.
    I even carry my wallet in there and have had no troubles with the magnetic stripes on my credit cards and bank cards.
    I did however explode a 4 liter plastic milk jug once coming down abruptly from a less than perfect wheelie.....What a mess!!!!!
    Maybe you shocked your electronic gizmos on a rough wheelie landing????

    P.S.
    Lets keep this wheelie talk on the D/L......cool!
     


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    Most newer tank bags have caps on the top side of the magnets to prevent the type of damage you are describing.

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    no problem here carry my cell and laptop all the time in magntiac tank bag
     


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    I have a Cortech mini I got for Christmas and carry my camera all the time. No problems yet!
     


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    As long as they didn't touch the side of the magnets that attach to the bike, they should be fine. Like was said earlier, they should be magnetically shielded with cups around the magnets top side or a foil layer in the bag somewhere. I think Tourmaster advertises their bags as "shielded" IIRC.

    Obvious question here- they didn't get wet did they? (Zumo is water proof I think?)


    Other than that.... I dunno. Build up enough static against a nylon interior to discharge when you picked them up into some metal component on them shorting them out? That's a stretch though lol



    Does the Zumo have a reset button? I think my Garmin 760 has one...no 100% positive off the top of my head.
     


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    Other Explanations

    Was camping, took bag off, folded under the magnetic flaps and stored it in tent. With GPS inside. Then it was dead.
    No water involved. No drops. Temp overnight was mid 40's.
    Put it in cradle to charge it/use it, nothing.
    Just thought of something while typing. Maybe my power line broke, and I was operating on battery power all day and didn't notice. Gonna try charging it in the car, today, and read the manual.
    Searched on line and there are no reports of this happening, so I guess I need to investigate a little further. I've used both for a year and had no problems. The magnetic bag is the only thing new to the mix.
     


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    My Zumo locks up some times. Take the battery off (you need a hex) and put it back in, then try turning it back on. I've checked out the Zumo forums and it is a known problem.
     


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    If you folded the flaps under the bag, that may have placed the magnets facing the bottom of the bag. Hopefullly its just your cord.

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    I think the Garmin has a USB port on it right? To load maps and what not? If so, hook that bad boy up to a computer. It should boot right up then. Same thing with your phone then too possibly. The mysterious blackout of...the dead battery syndrome?:doh:
     


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    it's possible, my bag sometimes "confuses" the coded key on my Ducati that is used to validate the pairing between the key and ecu... takes 1 min somtimes to find a pairing code that works... without the bag, all is good
     


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    Alright, they are back on

    OK. They both rebooted. Garmin was hooked to computer, nothing happened but it did turn on. Phone had no screen, and had no display, but after being on the household charger it came back on. Garmin does not have a household 110 charger, but I put it in the car cradle for about a 1/2 hour.
    Took it down to the cycle cradle, checked all the connections and the fuses, and it worked fine.
    What do I think happened?
    A magnetic field will only interact with moving charged particles. I think by putting the devices in the bag and having them jostle or move around (tankbag does not have external pockets), the magnet did affect the batteries of both devices. Stopped the flow, or maybe moved charges around with relative motion. I've used both devices on battery power for days (turn them off, use in short bursts) and it was weird how they went dead so quickly. And went dead so completely. Could not get home screen, could not get them to turn on, AND then go dead. I plan to be more circumspect in where I put them in the bag, and not store them there for any length of time, and not toss bag around like it is storage when off the cycle.
    Thanks for all the input, and I'm not going to experiment to find a definitive answer to this problem, but I'll ask you all to be careful. Don't toss it in there, willy-nilly, and then move it around a lot. Common sense? I'm still trying to get me some!:rolleyes:
     


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    accidents like this resulted in the invention of the flux capacitor... glad all worked out!

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    Hate to nerd out...but isn't it 1.21 GIGAWATTS.... and not "jigawatts" lmao.
     


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    Actually, I think Doc Brown did say "Jigawatts", not "Gigawatts"...

    I believe the progression is Giga-, Jiga-, Bazila-, and Fookalottawatts.
     


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    The invention relates to a method for compensating for a magnetic field disturbance affecting a magnetic resonance device, whereby the magnetic field disturbance is caused by a deflection of a component of the magnetic resonance device. To this end, the deflection or a variable causing the deflection is acquired in timed-dependent fashion, a mathematical field disturbance model is provided which models the effect the of the deflection on the magnetic field, and the acquired deflection or the variable causing the deflection is converted by means of the field disturbance model into a control variable for a compensation magnetic field generator or a high-frequency antenna. The compensation magnetic field generator controlled in this manner generates, for example, a compensation magnetic field which compensates for the magnetic field disturbance. The high-frequency antenna controlled in this manner is, for example, matched in its mid frequency to the magnetic field disturbance. (end of abstract)
     


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    Yeah, but at how many Jigawatts and at what altitude in which hemisphere? :smile:
     


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    The altitude does effect the density of a gas as described in Boyle's Law. Neither are hemispherically dependent.
     


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    The correct term is definitely "gigawatts" fellas. He mispronounces it for some reason in the movie. Go figure.
     


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