Bush still "dodging" the issue???

dodge ball.
dodge draft.
:unsure:

 

He is ready for the winter snowball fight

 

Nice to see they are free enough in Bagdhad to get their hooligan on, and that was a mad wheelie on the scooter the fat dude was riding.

As for the shoe thrower- don't think he didn't "fall down the stairs" on his way to federal detention. You can't throw stuff at politicians, even someone that deserves it, without the secret service giving someone a beat down. If he didn't get relentlessly beaten that is one more sign of the failing of this once great republic IMO.

 

WHO'S the dangerous criminal??
an attempted alleged shoe thrower.... or a lying power-hungry irresponsible mad bomber and destroyer of Iraqui civilization and murderer of innocent people like BU$H; and who really DESERVES a bullet or a beating??

ARE you so blinded by "patriotism" that you don't know??

 

I don't care who you are, that's friggin' FUNNY! Good job on the photoshop!

 

The Shiite shoe thrower was happy enough when Saddam was overthown and could have been one of the many who were hitting Saddam statues with their sandles at the time. Even odder is he had stated in the past he wanted Iraq to remain Democratic and was worried about Irans influence and the possibility of it taking over the Country.

What do you think would have happened after Saddam was overthrown and if the United Nations let the US pull out straight afterwards...A very bloody 3 way Civil war with a fundamentalist Iran left to take over the country with the worlds 2nd largest liquid oil reserves adding to its 3rd.

 

Is it just me or do I hear more stories of bombers and insurgents killing Iraqis-civilians and police forces these days than US soldiers killing them?



There, I talked politics. Are you happy now?

 

the US has supported dozens of dictators because they kept their countries stable and safe for US corporate interests, and we supported Saddam while he fought Iran even while he killed his Iraqui opponents, but then BU$H and co. wanted miltary action to boost US power and feed the defense contractors (Hailburton, etc.) who always want the enormous profits of war. Then , of course, there was Saddam's oil........

But the biggest reason for the war was for the placement of massive military bases (rent free) in Iraq for US control of the Mid East region and to threaten Iran

ASK an Iraqui whether he preferred a stable undemocratic country with electricity, water, schools and work or a destroyed, unstable, "free" country mosty controlled by foreigners??

 

The question would only be relevent when Saddam was still in power, I think you'd find the Shiites and Kurds would have wanted Saddam out at any cost at the time...The fact the country turned to crap afterwards has been the Iraqi peoples own choice. They could have easly chosen to support the Democratic Government to get on with rebuilding the Country to prosperity instead.

Will agree the one big mistake the Collation made early on was the US should have included the Sunni Bath party members in the new Government rather than sacking them all out of hand and banning their employment in any Goverment jobs.

 

The first may be true in the case of other regimes especially in Sth America but not with Saddams Iraq.

Don't forget Saddam was a free Socialist and anti capiltist who was allied to Libyas Col Gadaffi, Yugoslavias Tito and Cubas Fidel Castro and like them was ideologically and militarily supported but not directly contolled by the Soviet Union.

Only when it was clear Saddam was losing towards the end of the Iran Iraq war after Russia who was initially backing Iraq decided to double cross them and sold arms to Iran to gain Iranian help in Afganistan did Saddam approach the US for support. The US supported Saddam not because they loved him but because they didn't want Iran to win and was at the time the lesser of 2 evils.

 

lesser of 2 evils? that's Iraq under saddam, not a destroyed Iraq under BU$H

you saw what happened after Tito?? the same after Saddam. BU$H had a plan to win a war but no plan to govern

socialism is practiced in much of civilized Europe, not necessarily bad; just depends on leaders, and capitaism (as practiced) has just catastrophically crashed and burned, did you notice??

don't get me started on Castro.... through his own idealism and at the risk of his own life he threw out a corrupt, brutal dictator controled by US corporate (and Mafia) interests ruling Cuba as a colony of the US, extracting the country's wealth and giving nothing in return.

heath care and education in Cuba are the best in Latin America, and US has imposed a cruel boycott and covert CIA economic warfare against Cuba for 40 years for no good reason!!!

human rights?? we love China, a far worse violator, so why not Cuba?? see any inconsistency there?? (there ARE well documented human rights violations in Cuba---at Guantanamo!!!) the Catholic church operates freely in Cuba, not in China. Or are we going to continue to let our Cuba policy be controlled by Cuba's former top 2% economic elite living in Miami?? thanks to US government propoganda and corporate media disinformation, Cuba and Fidel have had bad PR, and people's minds have been systematicaly poisoned for 40 years.

 

Funny you should mention that, forgot the Yugoslavian nation went to hell all by itself without help from anyone once Dictator Tito died, Nato ended up stepping in through embarrisment.

Must agree a European based Democratic Socalism is probably to best way for a sustainable Society as a whole. The Stalinistic Socalism practiced by Dictator Saddam was a nightmare and not the same and I certainly would not like to have lived under it nor Fidels for that matter.

 

Saddam would have shoot him himself, Im surprised The United States Secret Service was not on top of this sooner ? and if i was president bush i would have thrown the shoes back at him however president bush was alert.

 

If we went to war in Iraq for oil, where is it? Why don't we use said oil for the profit of the US? That is the stupidest argument ever, if it was about oil we would have taken it to pay for the enormous cost of the war. I do believe the war was pointless and unnecessary but that doesn't mean people can throw shit at the president and not deserve a pummeling.

 

Are we talking about the same president?!?!

 

we DID want the oil .....but our government is incapable of properly managing ANYTHING due to incompetance and corruption

 

Have you considered therapy, or perhaps electroshock treatments? Just trying to help.

 

have you considered reading anything beyond your computer screen, like books??? (Not counting that ONE --faggy-- book u read since high school, "Lives of the NFL Quarterbacks")

try reading Howard Zinn's book mentioned above, then you MIGHT have something intelligent to debate about instead of juvenile, simpleminded personal comments.....or just put me on your Ignore List like others have done.

or try this: chomsky.com

or this: http://www.democracynow.org/

http://corporatecrimereporter.com/