Whats up with GM

Automatic Vehicles have a tachometer. Manual vehicles do not.

I might be as dumb as a pet crow. but does this somehow not make sense?

 

Nothing GM has done in the past 20 years makes sense. Did you obtain this info online or something? I has to be a "package" of some sort. There's no way they would put a tach in every auto and not a manual, makes no sense. Then again, see first sentence.

 

I'm with Two!

Except I'd say GM hasn't done much correctly for the past 30 years.

I blame poor managment practices and a union with outdated ideas.

Wait until KC-10FE reads this thread; I'm sure his opinion will be interesting.

BZ

 

Wifes caviler is a manual. no tach
wifes sanoma is a manual. no tach
my old caviler was an automatic. had a tach
my other old caviler was an automatic. had a tach

I want to say other gm cars iv been in were the same. I cannot remember the exact car to quote which one.

 

Well much to my own dismay I've owned enough GM vehicles to know. Only one was manual without a tach.

99 S10 - Manual w/tach
99 Z28 - Auto w/tach
95 S10 - Manual w/tach
95 z28 - Auto w/tach
91 Grand Prix - auto w/tach
88 S10 - Manual/ without tach

Wow, this might be the first time I've ever listed all my GM vehicles. I feel sick.

Keep in mind, when I purchased m 96 Tacoma, there were several that had a manual tranny without a tach. Still no idea why but that's the way it was.

The only conclusion is there is a particular package that does not include a tach. It could be something like, no power windows, no power seats, no tach. Who knows? You may simply have been lucky or unlucky enough to have a few cars with the same package which didn't include a tach.

 

GM makes cars?

But with lobbiests who cares how your company is run or what they sell....they have lobiests.

 

It is a shame companies no longer take car o fthe low man on the totem pole.

Seems like the boses get huge wads and rest languish.

the result is lack of pride, this manifests itself in a lot of ways.

 

Its a matter what is popular now verses ten years ago. Nobody cared 10-15 yrs ago so you saw fewer tachs. Now everyone thinks they need one. My 86 honda XL250 need one didn't have one whats up with that. Also most cheaper cars and trucks wont have them.

We cant all ride VFR's and own Suburus.....Proud to drive a Chevy and work at a GM dealership. Let the bashing begin

BUY AMERICAN!!!!, when it comes to cages

 

The new cars have rev limiters, what do you need a tach for??? LOL.



Bob

 

Not to argue with your point, I buy American cars too. well. all i get is used cars so it really doesn't make any difference, but. we have "American" cars, with all the parts from china, Malaysia, and Saudi Arabia. Even the raw materials are not from American soil. we buy raw steel from china. It seems to me that "American" cars are foreign cars assembled in America.

 

You are right, I just feel the more American companies we buy from the better off we will all be. Buy American to me, means support American companies. I'm am bias though.
Exception to the rule being motorcycles of course....

 

As for tachs, my dad's 89 gmc suburban w/ auto tranny has NO tach. As for GM, my family has always had GM vehicles, they have lasted a long time, thousands of miles and needed very little work.
-55 gmc pickup. inline 6, 4 speed, sits a bit, but runs good and used to transport dirt bike all the time. NO TACH
-89 Suburban been across country and back, used for boy scouts, has 200K miles, needed head gaskets at 190K, tranny starting to slip now. NO TACH
-77 Jimmy, 250K miles all original, Original owner, runs great passes smog. Head gaskets done at 180K. 4 speed starting to make a little noise. Has been through a few clutches. Just sold it to some kid down the street. NO TACH
-02 trail blazer, 70K miles, runs good. HAS TACH
-80 K20 silverado, project truck. 90 tbi fuel injection, 3/4 ton dana 44 swap, 4-wheel disc brakes, stops on a dime, 4-speed tranny, used for camping and wheeling. Has some dents and stuff, but good truck. ADDED TACH

 

My Oldsmobile Intrigue has been a pile of crap...

 

Don't mean to jump on the bash wagon but this argument is as bad as the Harley guy who says "buy American". I had a guy at work say this very thing to me after I gave him grief about buying a new Harley (which was in fun). He pulled the old "it's American". I then took the pleasure of informing him the forks were made by Showa....owned by Honda. He didn't say another word.

I might be mistaken but parts for all makes and models come from every part of the world these days correct? Only difference I see is the engineering and quality control which is where our domestic vehicles fall waaaay short. The "buy American" theme is obsolete in today's global economy.

 

I am a GM guy. Unfortunately, I was convinced that Ford was making the best trucks on the market. This is 10000000000000% not true. My F-150 is the second biggest POS I've ever owned. My 97 Dodge Ram was the first biggest POS I've owned.

EVERY GM I've ever owned was an absolutely bullet-proof tank.
77 Chevy Caprice Classic
73 Olds Cutlass Supreme
72 Olds Cutlass Supreme
87 Buick Century
92 Chevy Camaro
91 Chevy Truck
00 Chevy Cavalier

None of these vehicles gave me any major trouble that could not be attributed to normal wear & tear.

As soon as the economy some what settles down, I am trading my POS F-150 in for a GMC Sierra. If that truck turns out to be a POS, it will be the last American car I ever own. Why is that you ask? Simple... The American auto worker is a lazy, greedy ignoraminus. Yes, the company should take care of the little guy. Problem is, the little guy DOES NOT deserve $31 an hour to install lug nuts on an assembly line. The un-educated masses like to blame the government for the misdeeds of the worker. The government is not to blame, nor is the company. One can't blame a company for shipping jobs to India when the US auto worker wants $30+ an hour to do un-skilled labor. GM, Ford, Chrysler, etc... can't afford to hire Americans so they ship jobs to Mexico & China. That is fact, not my opinion. It's simple math. $30/hour + benefits + retirement per worker or $40 A WEEK for a foreigner. Simple logic to me. If you add the fact that the average American WILL NOT pay sticker (or anything close to it) for an American vehicle, the problem becomes more & more apparent. My F-150 stickered for $33200. I paid $23500, OUT THE DOOR. That means one of two things. One, the vehicle was never worth $33200 to begin with. Two, Ford sold the truck at a loss. You can't continually sell vehicles at a loss & expect to turn a profit.

As far as "Buy American" goes, who freaking cares anymore? Really, who? The Toyota Tundra is MORE American than the F-150 based on the percentage of "American Content" on the window sticker. To further the "un-skilled" labor arguement, the Tundra was designed, researched & entired built for & in the American market. It is the single most defective & troublesome vehicle Toyota has ever produced. Coincidence? I think not.

KC-10 FE out...
lane: :usa2:

 

eh. the ceo"s making almost 7 figure incomes. y not the other people make enough to not live paycheck to paycheck or less.

 

My point exactly. Customers want the best products, plain and simple. Unfortunately the best products aren't labeled as domestic. Made in America doesn't mean jack to anyone short of a Monster Truck Rally.

 

KC I know someone has 2000 silverado with tow package 100000 miles on it no problems great truck not sure about the rest of the cars but trucks are great. good luck