Any pics? galfer brake line install? help

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So what's the scoop? They finish your bike yet?

 

I went and played with all the cables last night after getting my bike back from the dealer. They installed the new rear wave rotor and galfer pads for me because I couldn't get those bolts off the rotor (stripped), of course they charged extra for that...lol

So upon playing with the cables last night I figured out how the final 4 cables go on to complete the linked brakes. I'll be working on it this weekend and will post the final pics hopefully, Saturday evening or Sunday at the latest. I'll number them prior so there is a comparison upon completion for everyone. The pictures that Reg71 posted above sealed the conclusion for me

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Sorry guys, no good news from me and I'm done with this.

Using the pics posted above, I think I was able to connect all the cables correctly however, I could not get the brakes to bleed. I would get pressure for a few seconds and then mush. Air was seeping in from somewhere but I had no leaks. I tried every thing everything to find the leak. I've spent the last 3 nights (almost 15 hours) working on this and I officially give up!!! I'm certain that I connected those last 4 link brake lines correctly and used the 2 brass oval fittings in the correct spots which are next to the gas tank in the hardlines. I tightend everything as much as possible short of stripping the bolts. Let me tell you, I blead the brakes, again, again, again, again, again, and again. I got so tired tonight I got my girlfriend to come help me and I spent a good 3-4 hours bleeding those brakes, time after time. It's a pain to try and bleed all 5 of those valves for the rear brakes even with the speed bleeders. I went through three 32 ounce bottles of fluid but started reusing the fluid at some point and lost count. I tightened, retightened, adjusted, shifted, rotated lines up the wazooo over the last 3 days but to no end.

My only conclusion is that one of the lines must have been letting air in because I could not get the lines to bleed. I spent the last two hours tonight putting the old cables back on and had no problems bleeding the brakes with-in an hour or so. All I can say is ....what a frigg'n waste of my time and money . I don't recommend the purchase of the whole galfer kit. I'd only buy the front lines. Of course I'm jaded now because I could not get this kit to work in it's entirety and for $400 bucks I thought this would have worked out better. I did have siginificant improvement in the front lines so that would be my only recommendation for $100 or $150 or whatever that kit costs.

Tommorrow I'm going to go buy an OEM linked braked line and replace the cracked one on my bike which is the original one that got me into this whole mess to begin with. After that, I'm going to put the bike back together and just ride. I'm also tossing those last 4 braided ines in the trash can because I'm pissed. I consider this a loss live-n-learn scenaro. Good luck to anyone else who tries this and maybe they'll have better luck than me and I hope they do.

-Bill-

 

Bill very sorry to hear about your troubles.....unfortunately short of a fork swap we are stuck with those wonderful linked brakes. Sorry no magic wand here.

Sam

 

Here's some pics of the wave rotors intalled

 

The galfer folks seemed they had Reg's bike for for an inordinate amount of time for just replacing brake lines.....I'm convinced that they encountered some problems as well.....they probably corrected those problems in house and now have a fittable kit. You don't just give away $450.00 worth of product if you know the kit fits in the first place........The conspiracy theorist side of me tends to believe they were trying in a very sneaky way to get a grip on the problems, and then seem like they were stand up guys......Galfer1, please feel free to correct me.

I have had previous galfer brake line fitment issues(non vfr related). I was sent the same wrong line 2 additional times and ended up having to send the stock piece to finally get the right line......I think their rotors and pads are top notch.....the brake lines....hmmm, I'll look elsewhere, especially since they didn't offer to do the same thing for the 6th gen guys!

 

After reviewing the pics at the galfer web site and reviewing their parts list, I did not receive the same parts as they listed. They show 3 cables with female adapters all the same connecting to the hardlines C, D, & F locations of different lengths. The D & F locations match my kit but the C cable does not. My C cable has a black boot on it, it came with an additional male connector, additional conic inversor, and it swivels. That now leads me to believe, that it is the origin of my leak and my inability to bleed the brakes however, I never saw any leaking from the cable. Oh well....

I hope in the future that everyones kit comes labeled and you all receive the correct parts.

 

So, Bill,.......... i guess your not going to try to contact Galfer and let them make things right ? Afterall,.. it was you that got this whole issue started.

 

Got this PM today about having lines not labeled.

 

I received a PM from galpher as well. I'm going to send them my 4 remaining lines later this week. Hopefully, they will replace the one with the swivle so I imagine it'll be a week or two before I can post again about the topic. I'm really tired of taking my bike apart, I'm not sure I want to do it again but I will just for the satisfaction of completing this project....lol

 

New to VFRWorld - quick question on the speed bleeders. Anyone have the proper part number for the clutch and front brakes? I tried the 8125L and it didn't fit - too big according to the mechanic. Speed bleeder web site is of littel help. Thanks.

 

Welcome wvoutpost. I purchased the same model speed bleeders as you however, I got the stainless steel ones SB8125LSS. They are long but that's what the "L" stands for in 8125. They have a longer nipple so more of it slides into the tube. I put 7 of them on my bike. The only one I could not replace was at the valve right next to the right side of bike just below the gas tank which is for the rear brakes.

 

I spoke to Robert today on the phone and sent my lines in as well.....should have then back early next week!!!

 

They do have this on their website http://www.galferusa.com/VIP/VFR800...R800 LINKED COMPLETE INSTALLATION PROCESS.pdf

when I did the install on my 98, they had nothing. No documentations at all. Not even a parts list. Their stated reason was that they expected most riders to take the bike to a shop to have it done! Even so, I thougth they should have instructions. What I did was go thru with a pen and some masking tape, and marked every brake line joint on my bike. A piece of tape at the fitting and a piece of tape flagged on the line. I then marked the tape with a different letter at each joint. So a hose would have a letter at each end, say A at one end and B at the other. And the A end went into the fitting marked with an A. Take care to draw or photograph the orientation of each fitting and bend. Then I took the stock hoses off, and matched them up the the Galfer lines -- not just for matching length, but match the bends. When I had them all matched, I then knew where each steel line went, although Galfer does elimante some excess joints. Install was pretty straight forward.

Right now I am 20% thru doing the lines on my '04, and regret I didn't do it the same way. I had installation instructions this time, so I thought I would be OK, but the install instructions are not complete. And I already have the old lines off!