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VP pick of Palin.. what does it mean?

Discussion in 'Anything Goes' started by cat0020, Sep 4, 2008.

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  1. Alaskan

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    McCain is, in my view, a legitimate choice. Our military is in the ME for the long haul, and he is the only candidate with the cojones to admit it. IF he wins - which he won't - but IF he wins, let us all pray for his continuing health for at least the next 4 years. Palin is appealing, but POTUS? No way!
     


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  2. eddievalleytrailer

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    Are we sure this country needs all this change? Anyone's elect. out (except for the storm damaged areas)? Anyone here starving? Anyone out of work (who really wants it)? Anyone here been attacked by a terrorist today? Is there food in your fridge? I know things could be better, but it's not all that bad. The news says the economy is in the dumpster. But, the sun will come up tomorrow. I will go to work tomorrow same as yesterday and today. I look at this site and see that a lot of new and used bikes were bought during the last 8 years. A lot of accessories were bought. All the while, everyone in Washington was in a fuss, and Bush was trying to ruin all of us (according to some). The dems did this and the reps did that etc.... and the world kept turning. We kept working, eating, buying and having a pretty damn good time doing it. I like it when congress can't agree...they get less done, which can be a good thing. I don't think we need as much govt intervention as they would have us believe. The govt wants us to believe that THEY are the center of the US, when in fact, it is us, the citizens who make this country work. The no vote on the "Bail Out" may have just bought a little time to let cooler heads prevail. This housing bubble has been coming for a long time. A week or two of thinking of alternatives won't kill anyone, and might save us all.
    BTW, I can't wait to see the Palin/Biden debate. Whoever wins, it will be a blast to watch.
     


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    Eddie, is that you????...what have the aliens done with the real eddie valley...:spankme::wedgie: we miss you eddie...you kept the fire inside of us all going...:party2:

    OBAMA/BIDEN 08
     


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  4. cat0020

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    Do you honestly expect taxes not to increase if our military stay in ME for the long haul?

    Cost of Iraq War 2008

    Cost of War | National Priorities Project

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    VP pick Palin...what doe sit all mean?

    I'll tell you what it means, we arn't getting a new VFR!

    THAT"S WHAT IT MEANS!!!!!!
     


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    DAMN REPUBLICRATS!!!!

    I new it was them squashing the V5 1000cc VFR


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    While there was no clear cut "winner" of the debate, I think it's safe to say that Gov Palin did much better than Sen Biden.

    KC-10 FE out...
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    Oh, come on now...I know you are a Palin supporter, but to say no clear cut winner? Biden came out on top in almost any poll taken on the debate. I watched it and was impressed that she didn't do as poorly as most thought she would. But with Biden I got facts, clear answers, and explanations of his and Obama's stands and policies. From Palin we got her stories about Alaska, her same methodic dogding of explanations using her "down-to-earth" lingo, and basically a lot of fluff to go with her winks to the camera. I had a difficult time listening to her after some time actually, it was like watching the movie "Fargo" at times. She was just there as a puppet to say a whole lot of nothing except that somehow we are supposed to believe that her ticket is the only one for the real American. From the unexplained health care plan that she and McCain have devised (what a joke), to her quick mention of the issue of education (which of course was meant for us to believe that they would actually change the No Child Left Behind program...yah, right dar Sarah) - I truly can't see her as good enough to be the VP of our country. This is why I have faith in our country's voters to choose the best candidate at this time, and am quite happy (and relieved) that Obama is still gaining momentum and pulling farther ahead in recent polls, regardless of the Palin ploy by McCain.
     


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    Actually, I AM NOT a Palin supporter. I have made it quite clear that I am not voting for either McCain or Obama. I intend to enter my own name as a write in & then vote for myself.

    When I said Palin did better, I meant she worked the crowd & won more support than Biden did. Debates are NEVER about the issues. The are about the reactions.

    KC-10 FE out...
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    OK. I actually think that isn't such a bad idea. I might do the same with the independent vote...vote for you that is. I couldn't handle it myself. Imagine...a true average joe in the oval office. Now your talking.

    I remember voting independent the first year Bush Jr. won. I just couldn't get myself to vote for either candidate. After having Bush as Pres. for 4 years though, I had to vote vs. him the second term. But unfortanately for all of us, he won somehow anyway - and now look where we are. Bush's approval rate is in the negative now isn't it? If only the Bush supporters would have been able to see into the future, right? But at least he is almost outta there and we can move on and they can learn from their mistakes.
     


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    I don't think it's "safe to say" Palin won the debate. Not when virtually every poll shows that Biden won the debate handily. I suggested earlier here that Palin's performance would appeal to a particular kind of voter. I think Palin carried that crowd - which, frankly, loathes Obama and Biden anyway. However, the fact that she didn't wet her pants at the podium doesn't mean she won.
     


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    Watch out Longer fellow, you're asking some deeper questions.

    The government doesn't want that!

    Gonna have to take you to Room 101 for some re-education.
     


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    The american election is crazy....
    for more than a year we have been hearing about it, with deligates and run up elections and such.

    Canada runs an ellection, they tell us, they slander each other, we vote for the we hate least.

    all over in a few months.
     


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    I think it's more accurate to say that she did better than expected and that's only because expectations were so low, even from her own party.
     


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    Tina Fey nailed it.

    MD
     


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    I also find it interesting now, just days after the debate where she accused Biden of bringing up the past instead of focusing on the present, that Palin is really pressing the past issue of Obama's ties to Ayers and the such. She is just a confused and desperate woman. I'm so glad she is the way she is though, because this is increasing Obama's lead in the polls every day.
     


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    You will see the McCain/Palin campaign go negative on Obama/Biden more frequently now that the tide is shifting toward the Dems. Just the way it works. I ignore all the negative sh!t and pay attention to what each says it will do if elected.
     


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    I think a lot of the country agrees with you. There's a lot of negativity out there already without it being heaped on night after night, day after day. The mud slinging is predictable, but still disappointing.
     


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    What is really starting to shift the Dems way (polls were 52% Obama, 40% McCain yesterday) is partly McCain's recent mortgage refinance plan. It is a horrible idea. I just don't see how bailing out all those people for buying into mortgages that they couldn't afford in the first place would be a good idea. So a person/family who can only afford, say, a $150,000 home buys a $300,000 dream house with a variable rate. They took a risk by not taking a flat rate so they could have a great home. Now, according to McCain's plan, we taxpayers have to bail out all those people so they can keep those homes that they can't afford in the first place. We are rewarding them for making a huge mistake of buying way out of their price range? So what is the reward for those of us who bought a home that was in our price range? So now a person/family who could afford a home between $150,000 to $200,000 and opted to buy one at a fixed rate for $150,000 gets to pay for those who have better homes than them but can't afford it. That makes no sense to me. I bought a home for $148,000 two years ago and went with a fixed rate to play it safe. I could have bought a more expensive home with a variable rate, but didn't . I would have loved to provide a $250-$300,000 home for my family, but I didn't want to risk running into financial trouble. But sure, under McCain's new plan that means nothing. Maybe those of us who are not facing foreclosure due to buying out of our means should have some money coming to us too, or possibly a permenant highest credit score possible as a reward for doing the right thing. This plan is horrible and the American people are not buying into it. Even my hardcore GOP friends are against it.
     


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    When did mud-slinging become a bad thing? I often wonder why the media makes such a big deal out of it. It's been going on for centuries. So, why is it such a big deal now? And, if the media hates it so much, why do they allow it to be shown on their network? The media could stop it tomorrow, if they wanted to. The fact is, the media LOVES IT!!! It gives them something to bitch about, and it attracts viewers. I hope McCain does go negative, if you want to call it that. I'd call it exposing Obama for what he really is. And, if Obama has some mud to throw at McCain, THROW IT and quit whining about it. I don't want to base my vote on only the "Good Points" of the canidate, while all the dirt has been hidden!! I want to hear about the bad things too. I want to know who his/her friends are and were. I want to know about all the dirt they have swept under the rug. In order to decide who to vote for, ALL info needs to come out, not just the "Peachy", "Feel Goody" crap. What if our credit report only reported the "good" accounts? What good would that be? Lenders need to know about the "Bad" accounts too, and so do voters!!! A so-called "negative" campaign is healthy for any election. So, let the mud fly!!!
     


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