Saying Goodbye to the VFR

MD,
Yeah I knew Peter had a fifth, but I thought he had sold it and then bought a newer one after his buddy wrecked his KTM 990. Anyway, hope everyone has a good weekend and gets some riding in.

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Let's rip it.Do we ride to live?Shh,let's ride.My demolition woman is tearing down my house,my life before my VFR!KT'SHHH!!!!

 

All this talk of VTEC issues has piqued my interest. I have ridden several 6th Gen VFR's. I've had my current bike since new. Let's everybody be real honest with everybody. The 5th Gen is a better bike than the 6th Gen & everyone really knows it. Everyone can argue till the cows come home but in the end, it's a point that's not worth argueing. If you have a 6th Gen & I say my 5th Gen is better, do you really care? Should you care? If you do care, what difference does it make? Are you going to sell your bike because of the opinion of someone on the internet that you've never met in person?

So, why is the 5th Gen better? There are only two things the 6th Gen does better. First is the 6th Gen has better wind protection. Second is it has better head lights. In EVERY other measureable catagory, the 5th Gen will beat the 6th Gen. The VTEC is not necessarily a mistake, it simply was not executed correctly. If Honda fixes it, which it can as evidenced by every single car engine they make, it will be a perfectly acceptable feature on this bike. We still need to get a 7th Gen. I'm not holding my breath.

Now, all this talk of ZX-14's & Busa's. In all reality, these two machines are completely useless for just about 90% of street riding. Think about it, how many bikes are:
more comfortable?
get better MPG?
better ergo's?
handle better?
That's just a few of the high lights. It is way to easy to embarrass a Busa in anything that doesn't involve long straights. Why on Earth does ANYONE need a bike who's only saving grace is that it can do 185+ MPH? A current ZX-10 or GSXR-1000 will actually beat a Busa/ZX-14 in the 1/4. Check here if you don't believe me: Motorcycle Performance Data and Specifications - Motorcyclist Magazine

I may not be too bright & pretty much have no useful purpose but I do know that, for any riding I could possibly do on public streets that will not result in my going to prison, I don't need anything more than my faithful 00 VFR.

KC-10 FE out...
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I will be on a VFR for many years to come, it is just a matter of what year and maybe what color. (Just joking about the color) RED!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Mello, never once did I discuss top end dyno performance concerning HP, top speed etc.
My point was that a VTECH can run very accurately with none of the rat sh!t some
5th generes love to talk about. As per your 5% dyno discrepenceis, what my numbers show are solid and consistant acceleration through out tach range. That means no throttle holes and no jumpy behavior. According to you those are the reasons why the
5th is dominant. The only time a 5% differance in dynos would matter is if I were talking about HP only. What I will post will show you power delivary and all dynos will show the same curves.

By the way, I love 5 gens, just wish there was a lot less lip!!!

 

P.S. KC10, you obviously have no idea how to constructively "measure" anything. Except
perhaps wind speed!!!

I'm sorry, was that off sides!!!

 

As cool as the Vlak is no matter how far you hang off it must run out of ground clearance, must admit it'd be fun making the sparks :biggrin:

On that subject just got back from a great days run this weekend an the always fastest rider was on a Gen 6 ( oddly enough my old one ) with Gen 5, Gen 5 ( mine ) Gen 6 and then Gen 4 we all got blasted by some " fast " bikes on the straights then slowed by them when we hit the tight twisties the lead 2 VFR's eventually through frustration rounded them up in corners.

 

I'm with you KC-10! I own a 6-gen and I don't care that the 5-gen is better!

I like riding my 6-gen and would I sell it to buy a 5-gen? No way.... I'm saving for a K1200S.... :ncb:... oh yeh!!... :ncb: oh yeh!!

 

Absolutely, give me a yell. Even if your in AZ, I'd like to hit north western mountains there.

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as far as my comment of carbs went, i just think for motorcycles it is the easiest sytem to make work correctly from the factory and satisfy most people. look how long its been around and worked just fine. fuel injecton i do agree is far superior to carbs in one big aspect- emissions. i personally love fuel injection on automobiles mainly for the convience and no real adjustments needed. i am a mechanic so trust me v-tec is hardly past my realm of mechanical understanding, especially when all i work on is a european model that has more emmision control, f.i., and electrical systems that just get more complex every year. i realize you said "most owners" in your quote, just expressing why i still prefer carbs on my bike. if v-tec guys like their bikes fine with me, i just personally prefer mine for my taste.

 

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Hey now.If you don't like what you ride,change it.Again the negative is easy.It sounds like the VFR is not for everyone.Yaa,so.123456Gen,Get eh life.I love my VFR.Love what YOU have!I'm drunk.Peace:wink:

 

If we had a poll for the most objective post this year, I'd nominate this one. :wink:

The latter part of what you said makes a lot of sense though.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and that's exactly what we're talking about. If everyone had the same taste, we wouldn't have such a variety of bikes to choose from. With that said, I think my 6th gen is a better bike for me in almost every measurable way to the two 5th gens I've been exposed to. It doesn't make the 5th gen a bad bike, I just think the 6th gen works better for me. I hope 5th gen owners aren't somehow hurt that someone they've never met prefers a different iteration of their bike.

 

thats to bad the original thread starter almost got thrown of a 6 gen with vtec engagement:rofl: . wish you luck on your new busa or zx14 , IMO the biggest squid bikes on the road.Its really all about the rider theres lots of riders on less and more powerful bikes that i cant hang with. on the otherside those posers on Bursa's are quite often in my way.
5gen may be the better vfr I really don't give a sh$t we all cant own them.
I like my 6 gen quite fine thank you! i still think its one of the best all around street bikes still in production .Freddie Spencer school uses one to take you around track 2 up for training purposes so I'm told. hope to find out in person one day

 

Whatever.Duh.

 

Well, get ready to spend lots o money on all repairs you do with BMW; and dont forget, all Bimmers are maintenance heavy; it aint no Honda.